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Comment by maxdamantus

5 months ago

> This is, of course, exactly what Rust does: I am not aware of a single thing that &str allows you to do that you cannot do with &[u8], except things that do require you to assume it's valid UTF-8.

Doesn't this demonstrate my point? If you can do everything with &[u8], what's the point in validating UTF-8? It's just a less universal string type, and your program wastes CPU cycles doing unnecessary validation.

> except things that do require you to assume it's valid UTF-8

That's the point.

  • But no one has demonstrated an actual operation that requires valid UTF-8. The reasoning is always circular: "I require valid UTF-8 because someone else requires valid UTF-8".

    Eventually there should be an underlying operation which can only work on valid UTF-8, but that doesn't exist. UTF-8 was designed such that invalid data can be detected and handled, without affecting the meaning of valid subsequences in the same string.

    • > UTF-8 was designed such that invalid data can be detected and handled, without affecting the meaning of valid subsequences in the same string.

      But there is not a canonical response to invalid data. So literally every operation that might need to make a choice of what to do when presented what invalid data should either (a) accept a parameter asking what to do on error and potentially fail or (b) take a parameter type that forces errors to be handled in advance.