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Comment by mhh__

15 hours ago

1) they also brought about net zero, do you think they're so different?

2) labour are absolutely balls deep on this. "If you use a VPN you are either Jimmy saville or worse Nigel farage" says Peter Kyle.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/29/peter-kyle-...

The meta point here is that both parties are basically the dregs of the last generation of politicians to not be "native" to the interner and are now having one last go at ramming it into a box (e.g. all the bad stuff is shoved into X dot com) which they can ban.

The thing is there's a decent chance it'll work. We have beaten out any liberal or even conservative sentiment in mass consciousness

> all the bad stuff is shoved into X dot com) which they can ban.

I'm not entirely convinced that's a bad thing.

We need outlets for free speech, but who those outlets are controlled by matters. Look at the impact Murdoch has had over the past many decades. That's what we want to stop.

>The meta point here is that both parties are basically the dregs of the last generation of politicians

No it’s not. That is a completely different point than what you initially made. You specifically called out leftists for causing the OSA and then tried to pivot to saying “by leftists I actually meant everyone” after someone pointed out that your point was invalid because you were factually wrong