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Comment by hoppp

20 days ago

So, people who need can always use linux and can even just compile everything from source.

How will you install Linux when all the hardware manufacturers are forced to enforce Secure Boot? All for security, of course.

  • They can't force the entire world to use Windows, its a national security risk for countries other than USA.

    Each country would need a locally maintained OS they can force on people

    • They are effectively forcing official Android on all smartphones in most countries with digital ID apps using Play Integrity. More and more people are using smartphones as their main computation device now.

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  • A lot of Linux distros work fine with secure boot

    • They all works fine because Microsoft allows distros to sign their keys. We are a single bad law or a change of corporate politics away from them not doing that and deleting Linux out of existence on personal computers.

      Now, maybe you’ll still be allowed to if you have a special license from the government to purchase approved hardware to run it in a datacenter. Which can be promptly revoked if you were found to be running illegal VPN software or something like that.

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They can, but if service providers start requiring client attestation, it won't help at all.

  • This isn't a technical problem. It's a political problem. We should be fighting this with our wallets, votes, voices and influence, not technology. Politicians and industrialists should be informed in no uncertain terms that the enaction such draconian measures will result in significant hits to their ambitions.

    • The only problem is that it's a tiny minority of us which can even grasp the concept of having root access on your owned computer. The majority believe the Apple (and now Google) narrative that "only the manufacturer can keep them safe" and why would they themselves ever have an opinion on the specific code running on their computer?

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Not when vendors you count on require you to use a provably locked down version and when the government makes it a crime to circumvent. At first u It'll be the banks who are pushing for it now, but why not Amazon and Netflix abd everyone else eventually?

And you can do that, but your bank and all government services will use Web Environment Integrity API to refuse to service you unless you are using a Google-approved flavor of Linux (e.g. ChromeOS) or Windows.