Comment by adidoit
8 months ago
Very impressive.
I have to say while I'm deeply impressed by these text to image models, there's a part of me that's also wary of their impact. Just look at the comments beneath the average Facebook post.
8 months ago
Very impressive.
I have to say while I'm deeply impressed by these text to image models, there's a part of me that's also wary of their impact. Just look at the comments beneath the average Facebook post.
I have been testing google's SynthID for images and while it isn't perfect, it is very good, insofar that I felt some relief from that same creeping dread over what these images will do to perceived reality.
It survives a lot of transformation like compression, cropping, and resizing. It even survives over alterations like color filtering and overpainting.
facebook isn't going to implement detection though. Many (if not most) of the viral pictures are AI-generated. and facebook is incentivized to let their users get fooled to generate endless scrolling
Along with those being fooled there are many comments saying this is fake, AI trash and etc. That portion of the commenters are teaching the ignorant and soon no one will believe what they see on the Internet as real.
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They already did. Certainly on the backend. For a while they were surfacing it, but I think it's gone again. But Meta is definitely onto this.
I think it's time to build a new system - something that can annotate the post the user is on, if there's at least another savvy user (or AI system) that can pick up on the uncanny signals. This youtube video about the "Walker Family" sham on Facebook is particularly relevant here:
Don’t Pay This AI Family To Write You a Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-DDHSfBBeo
The comments are probably AI-generated too, because a site that seems to have lots of other people on it is more appealing than an empty wasteland
Facebook comments are obviously botted too
I dunno, I thought so for a while, but I’m beginning to suspect this is a very optimistic view of humanity.
Why do HN commenters all act like they're in the top 1% of intellectuals
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This presumes that you're okay with giving the real Elon your wallet but not a fake Elon, but why?
It was very convincing. We thought it was a YouTube stream of the Starship launch. It paused with 40 seconds remaining, and "Musk" came on offering to reward those who support innovation and technology (BTC, in this case). All info here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lRbApgKT4U95zN0AYsPQqsLR...
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Because it isn't worth real Elon's time to run these scams.
I got scammed similarly (although $10, because I tested first), because 1. it was on YouTube, on a channel called "SpaceX" with verified logo 2. with hundreds of thousands of viewers live 3. with a believable speech from Mr. Musk standing next to its rockets (and knowing his interest in cryptocurrencies).
This happened as I was genuinely searching for the actual live stream of SpaceX.
I am ashamed, even more so because I even posted the live stream link on Hacker News (!). Fortunately it was flagged early and I apologized personally to dang.
This was a terrible experience for me, on many levels. I never thought I would fall in such a trap, being very aware of the tech, reading about similar stories etc.
I am flabbergasted that you both get scammed. I would understand if this was two years ago, but now? Do people really not know about these scams? I can already see down votes coming for victim blaming, but this is to me really shocking. Notice that there isn't "tell hn: don't get scammed by deep fake crypto Elon" because people who usually posts also consider this general knowledge. That's why it's so effective I guess. In a similar manner there will never be "tell hn: don't drink acid it will burn your intestines", the danger is so obvious that nobody feels the need to post it and because nobody is posting it, people get scammed. I don't know what is the solution to that. How should you tell people what everybody should be already knowing?
I remember being on a machining workshop and he was telling such an obvious things. Obvious things are obvious until they aren't, and then somebody gets hurt.
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Yes, this is the exact same scam.
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Plot twist: It wasn't a deepfake.
You sent your wallet to the real Elon and he used it as he saw fit. ;)
That’s what they said : they have been scammed !
Would you consider writing a blog post about this experience? I'm incredibly interested in learning more details about how this unfolded.
Yeah, here it is, along with screenshots. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lRbApgKT4U95zN0AYsPQqsLR...
I think the comment is a joke. Their bio is satirical at least :)
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Well just go on this guy's lawn and you will find your answer lol
Please pardon me since I don't know if this is satirical or not. I'd wish if you could clarify it.
Because if this is real, then the world is cooked
if not, then the fact that I think that It might be real but the only reason I believe its a joke is because you are on hackernews so I think that either you are joking or the tech has gotten so convincing that even people on hackernews (which I hold to a fair standard) are getting scammed.
I have a lot of questions if true and I am sorry for your loss if that's true and this isn't satire but I'd love it if you could tell me if its a satirical joke or not.
I guess it was something like [0] The Nigerian prince is now a deep fake Elon but the concept is the same. You need to send some money to get way more back.
[0]: https://www.ncsc.admin.ch/ncsc/en/home/aktuell/im-fokus/2023...
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There are a lot of people on the internet, and every individual on the internet is in a unique situation. Chances are some of them are very likely to be persuaded by a scam which seems obvious to you.
Parent’s story is very believable, even if parent made this particular story up (which I personally don‘t think is the case) this has probably happened to somebody.
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Not satire. He made a big speech about rewarding those who invested early in tech to move humanity forward and the benefits of the blockchain. It was extremely convincing. Three college grads and a medical doctor were all convinced.
This comment is perfect.
As always, it is the replies that make it worth it. GopherGeyser strikes again!
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These SpaceX scams are rampant on youtube and highly, highly lucrative. It’s crazy and you have to be very vigilant, as whatever is promised lines up with Elon’s MO.
Why would anyone give them any money AT ALL?
It's not like they're poor or struggling.
Am I missing something?
it requires zero vigilance if you dont play the game.
My mind is blown that people would engage in it at all, let alone need to be "vigilant". Amazing.
Not to victim-shame or anything, but that sounds more like more than one safety mechanism failed, the convincing tech only being a rather small part of it?
Yes, more than one safety mechanism failed. Coinbase actually flagged the transaction, but I was so desperate to get it to go through, I went through their facial validation process to expedite the transaction. If I hadn't for just a couple more minutes, I'd have realized it was a scam.
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I think the biggest failure is on the part of the companies hosting these streams.
Its been a while, but I remember seeing streams for Elon offering to "double your bitcoin" and the reasoning was he wanted to increase the adoption and load test the network. Just send some bitcoin to some address and he will send it back double!
But the thing was it was on youtube. Hosted on an imposter Tesla page. The stream had been going on for hours and had over ten thousand people watching live. If you searched "Elon Musk Bitcoin" During the stream on Google, Google actually pushed that video as the first result.
Say what you want about the victims of the scam, but I think it should be pretty easy for youtube or other streaming companies to have a simple rule to simply filter all live streams with Elon Musk + (Crypto|BTC|etc) in the title and be able to filter all youtube pages with "Tesla" "SpaceX" etc in the title.
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I don't mean to be rude, but this sounds like natural selection doing its work.
That's the sort of statement that remains extremely rude even if you try and prefix it with "I don't mean to be rude".
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I'm pretty successful with an above average IQ. It was very convincing, along with three other college grads (one a medical doctor).
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the modern turing test:
am i getting scammed by a billionare or an AI billionaire?
On the balance of probabilities it being a scam is vastly more likely than Elon actually wanting to contact you. Why would Elon need $15k in bitcoin?
It seems like money naturally flows from the gullible to the Machiavellian.
hey, I got a bridge to sell you, was $20k but we can lower it to $15k if you pay in BTC
You're paying too much for your bridges man. Who's your bridge guy?
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Was the bridge built by a genius like Elon though?
He would sell tunnels, not bridges!
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I don't think he's the gullible one, check their bio ;)
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Come on, don't be mean. Imagine saying this in person to someone who just told you they got scammed. "You're just extremely gullible" is just so mean...show some empathy.
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