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Comment by StopDisinfo910

8 months ago

The EU already told Apple in April 25 that the preliminary findings regarding the conditions they impose on alt stores and developers distributing through alt stores are in violation of the DMA.

Apple fully knows they are looking forward to a huge fine. I guess they are banning a torrent app here to be able to tell: look the EU is sponsoring piracy. They are also trying to get Trump to intervene on their behalf obviously. Given how spineless the current European Commission is, that might even work.

To my fellow European, my advice remains the same: boycott American companies, stop voting for parties affiliated with the EPP.

This is not a piracy app; it's a torrent client app.

It's just used to share files. I use it to share my videos & photos of my cat.

it would be nice if someone had a backbone and fought Apple like Epic's Tim Sweeney.

  • You are of course correct, but you misunderstand the PR machine. Apple can easily claim they are combatting piracy, and 99.5% of all people will accept that as doctrine. The truth doesn't matter.

  • Everyone and their dog knows that torrents are exclusively used for piracy.

    It's not true, of course, but everyone and their dog still knows it.

  • Surely we all know that when we post or upvote comments like this that we are being incredibly disingenuous.

  • Tim Sweeney's backbone is in whatever shape makes him the most money. He's an opportunist (and probably a narcissist), not a freedom fighter.

    • Here's a question on expected value. Do you think Epic makes more money if:

         (a) they agree to Apple's demands and have Fortnite on the App Store during its peak of popularity for years and eat the junk fees on mtx or 
      
         (b) they fight an extremely costly lawsuit, which they have no guarantee of winning, for years, during which time Fortnite could leave the cultural zeitgeist (which it to some extent has) and maybe eventually one day get closer to 95% of mtx money?
      

      If you think it's not (a), I would love to know why. Sweeney seems not that motivated by money, he's already filthy rich.

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    • Banning apps like Kindle and Patreon from linking to their own payments should never have happened. Especially Patreon - Apple wrote a rule commandeering 30% of a then-five-year old app's revenue and coerced them into using IAP to get it, nobody should be supportive of this whatever Sweeney's shortcomings or motivations.

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> The EU already told Apple in April 25 that the preliminary findings regarding the conditions they impose on alt stores and developers distributing through alt stores are in violation of the DMA.

Preliminary findings from the European Commission are legally meaningless. The EU court of justice has annulled fines against tech companies before, ruling that the EC has not done enough of an investigation. For example, here is a ruling that confirms that the one billion Euro fine against Intel should have been annulled because the EC did not do a satisfactory investigation:

https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/202...

  • It’s not meaningless at all. It means a fine is likely to come unless Apple has a very good answer.

    I understand your confusion but the EU is still a liberal democracy. Obviously we have appeal courts and some judgements are overturned. One being overturned concerning Intel has absolutely no bearing on what will happen in the Apple case.

    It’s the General Court which cancelled the Intel fine by the way. The Court of Justice is the next in line jurisdiction and confirmed the court decision after the Commission appealed.

As an American I would advise people to, when practical, boycott these companies, regardless of their country of origin, when they do things anti-consumer/anti-ownership. But more importantly we should demand our communities/governments to break these companies up and take more measures to reduce their power to do these things.