Comment by triceratops
6 months ago
A case study in lying by omission. They build coal plants but they don't use them. In 2024 more than 80% of their energy growth came from solar and wind. As of 2023 solar was already cheaper than coal in China.
What do you gain from lying like this?
https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/china/#:~:tex...
Nothing I said was a lie. Its literally the entire picture of their power grid not just the last 12 months of some boom cycle. You omitted the fact that the majority of their power comes from the most polluting fossil fuel in existence: coal. And it continues to grow coal capacity. It's not building these plants for shits and giggles these are capital intensive projects.
It's backup power. The power plants will never pay for themselves, but they enable much wider solar deployment because you can use the plants the 1 day a year when the whole country is cloudy.
You build gas plants to be the backup for that not coal plants. Coal plants get too long to get to temperature to be a backup for renewable energy.
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> Nothing I said was a lie.
"Lying by omission" means things not said. Facts deliberately left out to mislead.
> You omitted the fact that the majority of their power comes from the most polluting fossil fuel in existence: coal
And you omitted the fact that majority of cumulative carbon emissions come from developed countries. Not to mention you're spreading your lies on an article that's literally about them reducing total emissions, the final refuge for people like you ("America still emits less, the climate doesn't care about pe-capita blah blah"). Seriously, re-evaluate your priors. Consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, someone is doing something about the climate, and not even on purpose, while we just sit around.
> It's not building these plants for shits and giggles
Apparently they are because 80% of their energy growth doesn't come from those plants. I think they're part jobs programs, part backup plan.