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Comment by iyn

3 days ago

Do they "hijack" every debate, though? I understand that highlighting genocide support makes people uncomfortable, but it doesn't mean that it's not allowed to be mentioned. I don't think the original comment was totally off-topic.

You cannot mention genocide and not drown every other topic. It's naturally grim shit. Here it's drowning someone else's moment of joy. A fight won for democracy and freedom. TODAY, this person was proud of their country. It's already implied, this isn't every day.

The genocide happening is a terrible thing, but for most people here there is nothing actionable about it beyond voting and protesting. It's an important issue, but there is no reason for it to be the only issue on people's mind at all times. People dying in Palestine does not mean, people with no stakes or say in the matter need to be constantly consumed by its horror. There are many similar conflicts going right now, btw.

Climate change, social justice, digital freedom, queer liberation, ... it's all getting overshadowed by the Palestine issue. If you care about anything, someone wants you to care about Palestine in that moment. And quite frankly, a lot of these advocates are not even informed beyond their Instagram information warfare bubble.

This habit of injecting the topic into other political movements, effectively kills those other movements.

  • If you'd join any Palestine protest community you'd see that's not true.

    Mobilisation for every issue is increasing everywhere, and there is strong solidarity across movements. Because the genocide support is radicalising an entire generation who then join the other movements as well.

    I'm very interested to hear if you have personal experience to the contrary. However if you are not involved in anything, then you have no right to criticise those who are.

    I also want to note that the genocide is only possible because of our silence on the matter.

    • > I'm very interested to hear if you have personal experience to the contrary. However if you are not involved in anything, then you have no right to criticise those who are.

      I do. Am I allowed to speak now? There is no wide solidarity in both directions. If the Palestine block joins a queer demonstration and uses dog-whistles like paraglider symbolism in their communication, the messaging surely isn't solidarity with queer people. And soon thereafter, all you will see is Palestine flags, hear "Palestine 43" until the demonstration gets dissolved because someone says something wildly antisemitic, gets removed by the police, which causes riot. But hey, queer life got no reason to have their voices heard these days. Somebody may get a whole lot less free, until everyone is free, I guess.

      But in any case, how fucking dare you, I have every right to criticize whatever I want. You don't know anything about the person you casually guilt-tripped above, maybe you should take that into consideration when talking speech rules.

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