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Comment by ivape

21 hours ago

I mean, we have to be practical in our condemnation. I feel we had that somewhere around the 2010s, where we accepted that you can’t change a racist 80 year old. Fine, I think America accepted that.

But how the living fuck did that prior generation PASS ON the racism (and it’s way more than that, misogyny, economic selfishness, or wholesale disconnect in their economics to the point they don’t even vote for their economic interest).

HOW? How did they take 1 year olds in 1990-2010 and make them like the previous generation? People are not understanding what a huge sin this was. You CANNOT raise the children in an ideology that was nationally condemned and fought over for decades. It was an utter failure, no one was watching the kids.

This shit is so deep rooted that I am at a loss. To put it clearly, this is how anticlimactic America has been the last 20 years:

1) Imagine watching American History X

2) And instead of Ed Norton coming to a rebirth moment of shedding his racism and turning a new leaf, he stays a racist, doubles down, and also raises racist children.

There. Reality.

It's really interesting to me that you seem to assume that non-racism is the default state, and that humans have to be taught to be racist.

Based on what I've seen in the world looking across all the countries I am familiar with, including the US, I have to say I think the opposite is true.

  • Anyone with experience teaching children could tell you that racism is taught. It's just not baked in for kids.

    However it's also not a very interesting question imo. You will never "reset" a generation from any aspect of culture, and now that we're in the global information age it's triply impossible. We don't need to fool around with naturalist fallacy - it's enough to say that racism is bad and we should get rid of it.

Younger generations are probably more racist than their parents but not their grandparents. There are a lot of reasons this probably happened, and it wasn't something done to infants, but transpired over the last 10-15 years.

  • I think part of it is being raised on the internet right as the cultural backlash against progressivism, "cancel culture" and Obama started to accelerate across social media, and right-wing grifting became big business after Gamergate.

Yeah, that's the thing. Even if the Trump presidency ends and the next guy somehow actually undoes all the political damage (unlikely), how does the country recover from the social consequences? It won't happen within a generation.