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Comment by user34283

12 hours ago

Freedom here means transacting without:

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anti-money laundering safeguards

sanctions enforcement

consumer protection

tax enforcement

fraud prevention systems

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It is very true that technology won't get you this freedom from sensible legal requirements we impose on financial transactions.

That's obviously a good thing, but I guess people who are in crypto would disagree.

Conversely, property rights are also a good thing. I don't agree that it is as simple as you present it. Even if you believe that the state has a right to confiscate, regulate or inflate away value for a "greater collective good", reasonable people might also recognize the potential for abuse.

So no, it isn't obviously a "good thing", unless you reject these nuances in favor of an all powerful state.

  • Talk about rejecting nuance, but now the state is "all powerful" because you can't transact privately.

    Yes, the state has control of finance and transactions. It always does.

    Democracies are build on principles like Popular sovereignty, political equality, or the rule of law.

    Private transactions or tax-free property isn't a democratic feature. Yes, it's that obvious.

    • Even if you accept those premises, reasonable people would expect limits on the power of the state to infringe upon property rights, even when backed by a popular majority. Furthermore, the principle of individual self-ownership is a key starting point for modern, liberal ideas of law. Of course you are free to reject those premises, but I would characterize that as authoritarian rather than obvious.

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  • In an organized society there is no absolute right to personal property, there never has been and there never will be.