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Comment by epolanski

3 hours ago

> Your country sold you down the river 30 years ago.

Jm2c but I think the harsh truth is that US while having a decently sized population of good software engineers, it is still nowhere near the required amount.

Thus, many companies would rather give 150/200k to someone who's actually good at it and will be impressed by that money rather than some half assed US graduate who only went into SE because he wanted a cushy well paying job.

We could also give them a clear, short path to citizenship if we didn't have enough. Instead we do our best to keep it as chaotic as possible so that those SWE we need can't push for 175/225k

  • > We could also give them a clear, short path to citizenship if we didn't have enough.

    The USA currently potentially hasn't enough programmers. If the market tide changes, one of course wants to be able to send these superfluous work migrants back to their home countries.

How about we stop centralizing tech talent around 7 big companies that hire H1Bs, and instead let all companies engage in international (and domestic) exchanges of labor and services? Aka, all software engineers now self organize into small groups funded by independent contracts from larger companies.

This solves many, many problems, including where should laborers live, fairness in interviews, etc.

How dare that loser want a cushy, well paying job. This is America, that's not allowed for them. We like our workers desperate.

  • This, I cannot believe how all the most pro-workers rights people I know also support "open borders"-like philosophies.

    What do you think is going to happen to your bargaining power as an employee when your employer has an infinite workforce to draw from?

    • Well yeah, because when you have a much larger working population you have to actually establish rights at the government level or with unions rather than relying on your individual bargaining power.