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Comment by pandaman

1 day ago

You keep insisting that H-1B or any temporary visas are for the jobs that cannot be filled by Americans. This is simply not true. There are no such requirements so you whole reasoning is based on a fantasy.

> You keep insisting that H-1B or any temporary visas are for the jobs that cannot be filled by Americans. This is simply not true.

As a de facto description of the current situation in the United States I agree with you.

The de jure description for why h1bs would be allowed is due to them, again _ostensibly_, having skills or a specific skillset that could not be found in a reasonable time frame and are worth importing.

I am trying to game theory out ways to make the h1b system achieve the ostensible goals. I am not trying to defend the current system as it stands

edit: I realized this might be our point of contention right now

> There are no such requirements so you whole reasoning is based on a fantasy.

I was under the impression that h1bs positions were supposed to pay a “higher than prevailing wage” but there has been a surge of activity around these terms the past few months on the internet and I can’t find definitive proof of that. If that fact isn’t true it would modify my view on the system

  • >The de jure description for why h1bs would be allowed is due to them, again _ostensibly_, having skills or a specific skillset that could not be found in a reasonable time frame and are worth importing.

    There is no such description in law (this is what de jure means) so I have no clue why you think so.

    >I was under the impression that h1bs positions were supposed to pay a “higher than prevailing wage”

    They are. It does not mean they are for jobs, which cannot be done by an American worker, ostensibly or otherwise.

    • Ok, then I guess what I am trying to figure out is how to build a system that is the same as my de jure description.

      I was under the impression that was the case and do not need you to prove to me otherwise. But I agreed with that de jure description and would like a system that achieves that

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