Comment by epcoa

This has nothing to do with "liking" or appeals to emotion. The fact is that paper does not have a control and the methods are not sophisticated enough to determine causation.

"The other citation from the second link seems to be a paper which doesn't say 3% it say". Yes it does dude. You need to read the actual results from the paper more carefully: "Overall, 340/350 cases of primary cervical cancer confirmed by surgical staging tested HC2 positive (97.2%)." Ie 2.8% (~3%) were considered true HPV negative by this testing.

They're going from 8.8% (in that particular admitted biased dataset) to still 2.8%, the wording of the conclusion is wonky, but the results of the paper are overall consistent. You're taking that quote out of context.

In that same paper it says: "Our results are in accordance with The Cancer Genome Atlas Research Network (CGARN) ‘Integrated Genomic and Molecular Characterization of Cervical Cancer Study’, which used next-generation sequencing to characterize primary cervical cancers. The CGARN study found 95% of primary cervical cancers were HPV-positive and 5% HPV-negative."

Which is one of the primary sources for the 5% figure.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5354998/

In any case these are both order of magnitude more than 0.3%

I'll agree 8% worldwide is high (though since environmental factors and genetics both play a role in both HPV-positive and negative cases), these incidences can vary throughout the world or within certain subgroups, and if you manage those groups that matters.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11075765/

GAS is a clearly known cervical adenocarcinoma not related to HPV, and it accounts for 20% of all cervical adenoca in Japan, which overall places it close to 5% of all cervical cancer diagnoses there, just for this subtype.