Comment by LargoLasskhyfv
5 months ago
I upvoted you because I agree with some of the points you've made. With that Jesus Christ thing as such not so much.
Essentially much of what you wrote can be traced to much older sources, countlessly translated, and very probably distorted, because there is always loss in translation.
While from a conspiracy theorist view, Jesus Christ, and what happened to him, can be seen as a later 'invention', made up by whomever, for whichever reasons.
As can be Islam. No matter what they say about the 'holy Qoran' being 'checksummed', and whatnot else.
Why am I even responding to you? Well, because in my younger years (mostly 1982, other place(s) in 1988 & 2004) I did wonders, too.
Impossible things. But with witnesses, sometimes documented by X-Rays directly afterwards. Other times with medical staff watching while I did it(healing about a dozen sick kids in one wing of a child hospital), at other times healing and rejuvenating several female teachers, healing and rejuvenating a very old and sick nun( 90+ years old, eaten up by cancer, to about 25 biological age), leading up to having sex with a bunch of them, in their chapel, on their altar, because the acting chief nun insisted, and I've been like why not? :-)
Leading to a Jesuit trying to exorcise the devil out of me, which ended very bad for him :-) In one of the rather luxurious appartments/condos right below https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34464465
edit(timeout): If you're wondering why you can't find anything about the events I've mentioned, that's because I insisted that the involved parties keep their mouths shut about my identity, that I don't want to see any of this reported in the media, at the times newspapers, radio, or TV. Even to the police, or firemen, when they were involved. (Like trying to break open doors with an axe, when I've been doing my stuff, and some panicked bystanders called them)
I don't care about 'followers', groupies, fans, admirers, 'disciples', publicity and fame. Never did.
They are distractions. And a potential hassle.
As the metaphor of some allegedly crucified guy shows very well, doesn't it? :-)
I appreciate your interesting response. I'll start with an oft-repeated myth that falls apart under scrutiny:
"Essentially much of what you wrote can be traced to much older sources, countlessly translated, and very probably distorted, because there is always loss in translation."
Your claim assumes that whatever published document appears to be older was (a) older than any oral traditions, (b) the original claim, and (c) true, or more true than the later one. Then, any published works that come later are inventions or distortions rather than the truth. We have literally millions of counterexamples today disproving all of those premises.
Today, we see most people racing to be first to publish or to market often do shoddy work or lie or scheme to succeed. The people who move more slowly and carefully are often more accurate.
Most traditions and stories don't even get published. They're almost all oral traditions among friends. This was more true back in ancient days with their transmission done carefully. Whoever wrote something first had more money. We see today that whoever has more money for publishing isn't the first or most honest in many cases. The corporate media dumps out so many lies we can't count them.
The polytheistic works show many changes as they morphed from a few to thousands of gods and mythical stories. The Bible is firstly monotheistic which was a mind-blowing concept in that region. People are jailed or killed for claiming only one God even today. Next, the Bible gets extended in a backwards-compatible way by over a dozen authors from different walks of life and time periods. Then, it has history backing it up which was often challenged by atheists before that history showed up.
Then, there's the miracles. They have multiple witnesses, some who were skeptical or enemies of Jesus Christ, backing up His miracles. We've seen these follow the real church for a long time in areas where the Hindus and Buddhists say they never saw miracles before. Further, Jesus Christ had perfect character, didn't sin by using people for sex as you claimed to, and also never changes. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever which is comforting given His promise of salvation never changes for those who repent.
Most of what you described wouldn't come from God. It's out of character for Him. All of those encounters, done in Christ and righteously, would've instead been a nice testimony of loving, upbuilding acts. It's instead just hedonism that might be severely punished by God. That would mean you got your power from the Devil, lied about it, or imagined it. I've prayed you repent and are healed of whatever is going on with you.
:-) I didn't use or abuse people for sex. Typical and false accusation of people who misunderstand what that really can be, and besides that in most of the cases I haven't even been the initiator.
Because, yes, I can be, and have been shy, regarding these matters. If you think I've been whoring around and just discarded them 'after use', you are wrong.
Maybe I can be just charismatic and tempting sometimes?
Please don't pray for me, that is just offending and insulting to me. Like that attempted exorcism.
I stand by my words: Christianity (and Islam even more so!) is BS for holding sheeples down. A trapdoor, dead end, cargo cult.
Regarding oral traditions, I'm wondering what you think of the 'Dreamtime' of Aboriginial Australians, the accuracy of their transmissions, reaching back tens of thousands of years?
Or the Akashic Records? (Whoa! So satanic!)