Comment by novatea
8 months ago
I'm in Hack Club, the team is moving all of us to self-hosted Mattermost. It is unfortunate that we have to re-code so many things though.
8 months ago
I'm in Hack Club, the team is moving all of us to self-hosted Mattermost. It is unfortunate that we have to re-code so many things though.
I've never used Mattermost before today. After checking out their site, I can see they are also a for-profit company. What does Mattermost offer that Slack does not, other than a bill lower than $195K/year?
You can deploy it self-hosted without paying any fee, so you control your data much more.
Last time I checked they cripple the self-hosted version, asking to subscribe for enterprise plan here and there. Source: deployed their chat locally a couple of weekends ago. Overall, I liked their Slack clone, they this one was a red flag to me. Now I’m not sure we want to deploy this, but I know very little alternatives. Zulip, but it cripples its self-hosted version too. It allows just 10 mobile users (notifications). Maybe Matrix it is then, but it’s not very suitable for airgapped company-wide deployment.
6 replies →
Mattermost is open-core software: you can self-host and they can't turn you off or raise the price.
What's your case for calling it open-core? The whole thing is AGPLv3, so... I'd call it FOSS with some components optionally being usable under Apache 2 terms
3 replies →
I personally see any kind of subscription as a technical debt.
Does give you more things to 'hack' for the club. Not all bad I guess, and saving that amount of money is worth creating some 'new projects'.
Matrix would be a better alternative
mattermost is so so so clunky and uncomfortable, but hey, it's free...
Is it? We've been using it self-hosted for years, together with GitLab. It meets all the needs of a small company, and is very pleasant to work with for devs too (i.e., basic Markdown just works, so you can post anything from code to log snippets in a sensible manner).
Setting up Mattermost was one of the best decisions we've made with regards to our tools.
Funny you would mention GitLab - I find it extremely clunky, especially compared to GitHub. Maybe GitHub is primitive in comparison, but it never makes me hunt for basic functionality and the search just works for about everything.
What about the software nudging you to subscribe to their enterprise plans here and there? Did you turned off this, or just ignore?
4 replies →
> mattermost is so so so clunky and uncomfortable
I'm quite sure they are open to pull-requests..
yawn it's very, very old to tell people "do it better else shut up", which is exactly what you did.
people can have an opinion you know. this is my opinion.