Comment by ryandrake
7 months ago
I'm never going to update a photo government ID to some company just to use an app. What kind of a bonkers world are we living in? Totally ridiculous. No app is worth this.
7 months ago
I'm never going to update a photo government ID to some company just to use an app. What kind of a bonkers world are we living in? Totally ridiculous. No app is worth this.
Some sites outsource their ID verification to platforms that want live videos of different angles of your face, along with pictures of your ID.
Literally all the data they could possibly need to build 3D models of your face for even better facial recognition, along with plenty of data to train models on. When that data eventually leaks, it will be interesting.
It's insane that anyone puts up with it.
> "that want live videos of different angles of your face"
Hetzner (outsourcing to Idenfy) dared to demand this of me, three years ago. I'm still mad about it.
> "When that data eventually leaks,"
Indeed, my understanding is these sensitive biometrics are generically (i) uploaded in full to a remote server, where they're (ii) retained for a nontrivial amount of time, because they need to be (iii) manually QA'd by humans. It's nothing like an iPhone's local-only biometrics enclave. My understanding's based on the specific case of Idenfy, and an ex-Idenfy HN'er explaining its workflow[0].
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33863625#33864440
Hetzner (in Germany) never did things like these to me. What were you trying to do with them?
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It’s likely your face in multiple angles already exists online whether from photos or videos, simply because you were in the background of someone else taking a photo or video. Whilst I align with you in being restrictive in the data we share online, corporations and government with infinite resources likely have everything they need to construct “3D models of your face for even better facial recognition”.
people scan their retina in exchange of coupons amd shitcoins in mall booths
Some people also eat rocks, it doesn't mean it's common or even a good thing to do.
desperate people do that. Scammer Altman went to Argentina during the peak economic crise of the century to make that offer.
likewise, most USA government backed benefits require people to submit all sorts of biometric to a private company who used to monetize coupons for military deployed personel, called gov.id or something.
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I had to go through this shit show once in my life, in order to use Airbnb.
It's been a few years since I last used Airbnb and I regret that moment of weakness.
Most new accounts seem to require a face scan too (finally they're true to their name?). I recently needed to get a Facebook account and was not able to use it without providing the scan. Luckily I was able to do an AI face swap, but far from everyone is that savvy.
Interesting. Did you swap your face on a computer, and pointed the smartphone camera on the monitor?
Desktop browser & https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam