Comment by Rover222
5 months ago
I agree from a high level, but I think the major difference is that: - Chinese news is propoganda in the traditional sense - directed/approved by the central government - US news is not centrally controlled like that, but most sources lean heavily left or right, and distort narratives to fit their views.
I feel like liberals believe that, while Fox News is clearly presenting things from a right-leaning perspective, most of their chosen news sources are neutral. That's absurd. NYT is certainly far left in how they spin the majority of their stories.
NYT is definitely not far left and is still the cream of the crop when it comes to fact-based reporting
According to this outfit the NYT "skews left": https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive
Their opinion section is mostly center left but has pretty wide ideological diversity
They do still do a lot of fact-based reporting, that why I'm still a subscriber. But their staff is 90% liberal, and it certainly comes through in a lot of their reporting, not just in opinion pieces. The left is as much as an echo chamber as the right, if you stick to media aligned on either side.
Yea, there can be an echo-chamber/bubble effect.
There are certain issues in particular that can derange them more than others (e.g. Gaza), but IMHO the NYT's cultural biases usually soften Trump & R's image more often than not these days, because of the way they sane-wash/both-sides to the extreme (to avoid accusations of bias).
The right-wing media is a category difference though - it's not an echo-chamber, it's a disinformation factory.
There are a couple of exceptions, but they are few and far between. WSJ has managed to maintain it's cred despite being owned by the Murdochs (its opeds are another matter). The Dispatch is another good one. A good way to filter out the bad ones is to look at their coverage of the 2020 post-election. If they helped reinforce Trump's stolen-election lies they are either crackpots or bad actors.
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The fact that you think NYT is “far left” is a great example of how incredibly far the overton window has shifted.
The whole democratic party has shifted drastically left in the last 10 years. If you can't recognize this, you're just deep in the echo chamber, IMO.
Where did I mention the democratic party? I’m talking about the NYT. I also disagree with your statement, irrelevant as it is.
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