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Comment by petesergeant

5 days ago

So you’re going to be able to tell me what _is_ the most reliable place to get a general crowd-sourced opinion then?

I don't think there is one. Prediction Markets are probably the closest and even those have problems. But at least incentives in a prediction market aim for the truth rather than an entertaining experience.

  • No, incentives aim for whatever gives a return - not an objective neutral verdict-of-the-crowd. It requires a regulator to be active.

    Read about the whale trades and wash trades on Polymarket: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41999743

    • Yes the incentive alignment is what I was referring to when I mentioned that prediction markets have their own issues.

      I'm not convinced wash trading is a huge problem as it's mostly about generating fake volume. The particular linked example is bad too because Trump did end up winning the election.

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Argh, there isn't one - is the message we're trying to get you to accept.

Just because reddit is reliable vs its peers != absolutely reliable.

Like Amazon, Yelp, Google any review system will become gamified for money. So just like those platforms every review you read you need to ask "who is the reviewer? do they review other things? how 'realistic' does it read? Are they pushing anything? Is the thing i'm reading affected by money? Were they given a product? were they given a discount/kickback for a review?" etc etc.

You cannot simply look at a review and say oh yeah that's a good review of someone who just wants to help others.

The whole reason this thread exists is exactly because of above. Someone weaponized the trust, your trust, of reddit to bring down a startup - and it worked.

  • > is the message we're trying to get you to accept

    You're replying to a comment where I said I agree with the statement "Reddit should not be considered an authoritative source"

    • With the phrase "the most reliable" which is a phrase to mean the subject you're describing is inherently reliable. Meaning you can read the reviews on reddit differently than amazon, yelp, and the rest. If reddit reviews can't be read differently vs others, why "most reliable"?

      You're trying to walk a line that says reddit not authoritative and yet reliable. In this specific context authoritative also comes to mean reliable. So we're at reddit is not reliable yet reliable?

      I'm saying it can't be. The well has been poisoned and it's not safe to pray it didn't mix. That you need to treat reddit with the same skepticism lest you be taken for your money. Perhaps you don't agree, which is fair then we agree-disagree.

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