Comment by mlrtime
4 days ago
>At this point if you don’t oppose them you implicitly support them, the normal rules no longer apply.
^ The average far-left in a nutshell. You are either with us, or against us. There is no centralist.
4 days ago
>At this point if you don’t oppose them you implicitly support them, the normal rules no longer apply.
^ The average far-left in a nutshell. You are either with us, or against us. There is no centralist.
Or perhaps, that is the centralist position.
To take an apolitical comparison, think about an ordinary crime- a murder, a rape, an arson, etc.
There is some set of people saying "We know that this man murdered these victims. We think that is very bad. We think the murderer should go to prison so that he doesn't murder more people".
Does a neutral centralist say "Yes, the murderer should go to prison" or do they say "I'm remaining central, I don't want to join the side that is condemning the murderer. I think they hate the murderer. I think the murderer should remain free."
My belief is that a neutral centralist agrees to send the murderer to prison. And if someone supports letting the murderer carry on murdering people, then they can reasonably be said to be supporting the murderer rather than claiming to be a centralist on the murder issue.
Your position is as silly as you view the parent's. It's natural for anyone who thinks there are active crimes being committed to not engage in "compromise" until the other side agrees that they are crimes.
For example, I don't think it would be logical for someone who literally believes abortion is murder to bother allying with a side that doesn't believe as such unless there is a bigger crime that is being commited that they both can agree on. See, both sides would agree that that compromising with someone condoning murder for the sake of centrism would be fucking stupid. Obviously no side thinks they're condoning murder, they simplly don't agree that the action constitutes murder.
So instead of pointlessly championing centrism for the sake of centrism, it's much more constructive to argue: no, they are not a sex offender, no they are not directly engaging or aiding and abetting corruption, no those foreign allies are not worthy allies because of xyz etc etc.
What a weird time to find out that most of my centrist and conservative friends are actually far left because they mostly agree with such an assessment.
Then again, I suppose definitions can differ. Maybe you have a set of principles and boundaries. Maybe you're just rooting for or against a sports team.
The craziest thing for me was seeing my father, whom my whole life was an solid Cold War era republican (better dead than red and all that) started posting about nationalizing companies Trump was beefing with.
On the other hand, there are some old jokes hiding in there somewhere.