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Comment by honkostani

3 days ago

Its fall showed, that cultural relativism and universal liberalism, where just western delusions. Socialism was a dead ideology by then, but this really attacked western values, insofar, that a dried husk of a imperialist religious ideology, revived with western demand for natural resources (oil) would rather engage in cultural warfare upon western values and society then trying to fix itself.

It was a ringing bell, bringing the attention back to the old ugly worldorder of great games, land-empires and bloody conquest and the inability to isolate from hostile ideologies, even if you are the usa and living on a giant island. Bush went to iraq and the failure to build any working state there- showed not only the failure of neoncons, but also of the whole "all cultures are equal" and academic impotence. There explanation models had nothing for this but tired rehashes of colonial/anti-colonial ideology, no predictions, no real help, just "belief in universal values and western culture, and righton" - and that was it. No help for the 2 billion stuck in religious ember, not real analysis to free the wasted geniuses trapped under burkas. Silence, ideology and absence, thats whats left.

Some of this rings true, but it makes way too many speculative assertions about the future stated as if they're simply done deals. It also uncritically channels many memes from the destructionist movement presently "leading" the US, rather than acknowledging that movement as part of the "cultural warfare upon western values".

  • It is already final. You can not be stuck in medieval times in a world with nuclear weapons and proliferation. Had Israel not taken out the reactors of Iraq and Syria, ISIS and Iraq would have nukes today. Which would result (because non-reasonable actors aka fanatics longing for the afterlife) in a regional exchange.

    The middle east is already gone. They will nuke one another, rather sooner then later. And their governments know. They desperately embrace the surveillance state as stabilizer, move there centers of government out of population centers expected to implode in senseless rebellion and anarchy again and again - they want to build cities optimized to escape nuclear retribution, for the day when some of their madmen lob a device at Israel.

    They celebrate right now in Ghaza and chant for more violence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3yaBgGzANc

    And that boiling cauldron of madness is wide spread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdlsHaRD1k