Comment by ramraj07
3 days ago
I have two hypotheses:
1. It affects the fundamental ego of these engineers that a computer can do what they thought only they could do and what they thought made them better than the rest of the population. They might not realize this of course.
2. AI and all these AI systems are intelligence multipliers, with a zero around IQ 100. Zero multiplied by zero is zero, and negative multiplier just leads to garbage. So the people who say "I used AI and its garbage" should really think hard about what it says about them. I thought I was crazy to think of this hypothesis but someone else also mentioned the exact statement and I didnt think I was just being especially mean anymore.
Nothing to do with ego, but you may want to check your own projections, you know how when you speak of the others, you mainly speak of yourself (Jung or Freud, not sure). No need to be bitter about not having the grind and focus to become an engineer yourself, it is after all much harder than say, earning an MBA and you should be OK with whatever you turned out to be. Not to mention that the tools themselves, were in fact built by engineers and not by the "rest of the population", like yourself. Now having said that, I am early adopter myself, was happy to pay the premium costs for my entire company, if the tool was any kind of amplifier. But the crap just does not work. Recently the quality is degrading so much that we simply reduced it to using it for simple consultation - and we only do it because unfortunately the search has been ruined. Otherwise most of the folks both internally and externally that I know using these tools would be happy to just go back to google search and SO. Unfortunately that's not an option. Also see if your second argument makes any sense at all. Maybe it comes out of a lacking math background? Firstly, you don't need two zeroes to get a zero out at the end of the multiplication. And secondly, if an average engineer is a zero, what are folks like you then? But again, it maybe just your own projections...
For some reason youre assuming Im not an engineer which is funny and revealing.
I am an engineer and my vibe coded prototype is now in production, one of the best applications of its type in the industry, and doing really well. So well, I have a pretty large team working on it now. This project was and still is 95% written by AI. No complaints, never going back. That's my experience.
Clearly the eng community is splitting into two categories, people who think this is all never going to work and people who think otherwise. Time will tell who's right.
To anyone else reading and thinking closer to the second side, we're hiring :)
Hey no need to prove yourself to a stranger on the Internet. I'll take your word for it, including your "pretty large team working on it", which for some reason is necessary, although you have "vibe coded 95%" of your application. So if you were to be taken by your word, the LLMs are fantastic and you can do 95% production-ready on your own, just using the LLMs, but for some reason, you'll still need a "pretty large team" to work on it afterwards. Yeah, that sounds very consistent with your main line. Also feel free to share your company and product name, so we can avoid it - thanks.
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phd in medical engineering doesn't scream "computer science expert" to me.
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Which company so we can avoid it?
trust me bro vibes
> Recently the quality is degrading so much
You can say it sucked and still continue to suck, but that LLM/agentic AI is degrading is simply false. Such a statement really makes me question the genuinity of the rest of the comment.
Well, unlike mine, "simply false" as we know, is the ultimate argument to prove one's point, isn´t it?
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You seem to be assuming that the negative multiplier is on the human side of the equation. There’s your mistake
Alternative hypothesis is that you work on trivial problems, and therefore you get a lot of help from LLMs. Have you considered this?
Im definitely not creating the next StuxNet for sure. So Ill bow down to whoever is writing the next C compiler I suppose.
This is like a person who thinks that making a photocopy of an Einstein paper makes him Einstein. You know, Einstein wasn't that special after all and the photocopier affects his fundamental ego.