Comment by mitchellh
3 days ago
Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but I'm guessing it may be this interview I did 2 years ago: https://youtu.be/rysgxl35EGc?t=214 (timestamp linked to LLM-relevant section) I'm genuinely curious because I don't quite remember saying the quote you're saying I did. I'm not denying it, but I'd love to know more of the context. :)
But, if it is the interview from 2 years ago, it revolved more around autocomplete and language servers. Agentic tooling was still nascent so a lot of what we were seeing back then was basically tab models and chat models.
As the popular quote goes, "When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind. What Do You Do, Sir?"
The facts and circumstances have changed considerably in recent years, and I have too!
It was this one: https://sourcegraph.com/blog/dev-tool-time-mitchell-hashimot...
They even used the quote as the title of the accompanying blog post.
As I say, I didn’t mean this as a gotcha or anything- I totally agree with the change and I have done similarly. I’ve always disabled autocomplete, tool tips, suggestions etc but now I am actively using Cursor daily.
Yeah understood, I'm not taking it negatively, I just genuinely wanted to understand where it came from.
Yeah this is from 2021 (!!!) and is directly related to LSPs. ChatGPT didn't even get launched until Nov 2022. So I think the quote doesn't really work in the context of today, it's literally from an era where I was looking at faster horses when cars were right around the corner and I had not a damn clue. Hah.
Off topic: I still dislike [most] LSPs and don't use them.
What do you not like about LSPs? When you do eg refactoring isn't it nice to do operations on something that actually reflects the structure of your code?
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Are you still using the NixOS setup you showed in that interview or do you now use the MacOS native ghostty?
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The CEO of Sourcegraph Quinn was pretty negative on coding agents and agentic development only about 10 months ago [0]. He had 'agentic stuff' in the Deader category (Used rarely, Reviewing it aint worth it). In fairness, he did say it was the future but 'is not there yet'. Since then, Sourcregraph's code assistant plugin Cody has been deprecated an they are all in on agents and agentic with Amp.
0.https://youtu.be/Up6WVA07QdE?si=xU_iu2rQAWoHXPpO&t=898
Yeah, I said about coding agents, “it’s obviously the future, but it’s not there yet”. That talk was from the AI Engineer conference in June 2024 (16 months ago). Coding agents have come a long way since then!
> As the popular quote goes, "When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind. What Do You Do, Sir?" > The facts and circumstances have changed considerably in recent years, and I have too!
This should be everyone's default if we are learning. Not saying that's what the OP did here, but I hate how people dig out something that was said years ago like it's some gotcha. I think it's a bigger issue if people never change their minds about anything because it would show hubris and a lack of learning.