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Comment by Bratmon

3 days ago

The US literally just tried that with gambling, and we discovered that making gambling legal increased the number of addicts by so much that it shows up in "total bankruptcies" statistics.

The key difference is people view heroin as something that will ruin your life, but think gambling is a harmless pass time until it is too late. There’s nobody who doesn’t know the perils of heroin, legal gambling existed in most places in some form and had for a long time. People view it much more like alcohol than heroin.

Also we didn’t just try that with gambling (48 states have had some legal form of it forever) we just tried it with online sports books, which turn out to be a particularly virulent form of gambling. And we haven’t really begun to sensibly regulate that, a lot of harm may be reduced in the near future as we do.

  • > The key difference is people view heroin as something that will ruin your life,

    Now they do; make it legal and in two generations it won't be viewed that way because, after all, it's legal!

  • It's worth noting that there's a form of gambling that's exactly the same as sports betting that has been legal for much longer, the financial markets.

    • The analogy is apt only in that financial markets are "a form of gambling" exactly as much as sports is.

Do you expect the same amount of ads for heroin as for sport betting?

Get your first dose for free! Refer a friend and get more free shots! Every tenth shot for free!

  • Yes, I do. Heroin was widely advertised before it was banned, and I don’t see why those same commercial pressures wouldn’t lead to it being advertised now if it were legal. It’s not even a lie to say that it works as a cough suppressant!

    • So, you can’t make something legal, but ban advertising it? Seems like a user error.

      Some countries don’t even allow advertising legal and OTC pharmaceuticals.

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    • Weed is legal in many places, are there ads everywhere there?

      Also Coca-Cola should be allowed to use a real coke extract. I doubt they will as they cannot even use a real sugar in USA anymore.

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We also made it extremely easy to gamble. It'd be the equivalent to handing everyone a heroin replicator, so that all people had to do was press a button and heroin would instantly appear.

Isnt that more because gambling is ingrained with American culture? It’s seems to be pretty much everywhere.

  • Gambling as in roulette, gambling as in games of skill, or gambling as in trading?

    In the last case gambling is pretty much everywhere in all developed societies.

    • > gambling as in games of skill,

      These are pure gamblimg, the skill part is thinly weiled excuse having little to do with the reality. Even if it was skilled, it would still be gambling, but for the most part it is not skilled.

      > or gambling as in trading?

      Yeah many small investors treat it as a pure gambling. But investing has more regulations and somewhat saner culture. The companies are not intentionally trying to identify and hook addicts deeper and deeper.

      Which "sports" literally do.

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