Comment by empath75

Assume for the sake of argument, that this is literally sorcery -- ie communing with spirits through prayer.

_Even in that case_, if you can design prayers that get relatively predictable results from gods and incorporate that into automated systems, that is still engineering. Trying to tame chaotic and unpredictable systems is a big part of what engineering is. Even designing systems where _humans_ do all the work -- just as messy a task as dealing with LLMs, if not more -- is a kind of engineering.

> rules learned over many years

How do you think they learned those rules? People were doing engineering for centuries before science even existed as a discipline. They built steam engines first and _then_ discovered the laws of thermodynamics.