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Comment by greysphere

1 day ago

And in fact, the first engines were developed without a robust understanding of the physics behind them. So, the original version of 'engineering' is more closely to the current practices surrounding AI than the modern reinterpretation the root comment demands.

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sysguest  20 hours ago

idk did we call that guessing explode-or-not game "engineering" back then?

maybe we started calling it "engineering" after we had some rules & calculations to make it "not-guessing-game"?

  • greysphere  17 hours ago 

      (1712) Newcomen Engine
  (1776) Watt Engine
  (1807) Atomic theory of Gasses (Dalton)
  (1807) Concept of Energy (Young)
  (1824) Carnot Cycle
  (1834) Ideal Gas Law (Clayperon)
  (1845) Relationship between work and heat (Joule)
  (1840-60s) Laws of Thermodynamics (Carnot, Clausius, Kelvin)

    For over a century, there were a group of people working on building, maintaining, repairing, refining and improving engines, called 'engineers', who had a very incomplete picture of the physical laws surrounding them. I would assume there were many explosions and other accidents along the way (as there continue to be).

    The investment in the science of thermodynamics and the chemistry of fuels was largely motivated by the value of the steam engine, and the attempts to improve efficiencies allowing miniaturization, enabling locomotives and the railroad boom, and eventually automobiles and powered flight.

    I think the era from say 1950..2020 has been a relatively unique period in history where science has been ahead of praxis (though folks in medicine or other fields might not have had that luxury). Recent advancements in AI preceding strong theoretical foundations might be a reversion to the mean.