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Comment by crazygringo

9 hours ago

See my other comment for its popularity statistics. Victorinox is literally the #1 multitool brand by market share. These are facts.

Your take is idiosyncratic. Using a SAK doesn't mean "you probably screwed up". That's truly a bizarre thing to say.

A SAK is a perfectly fine metaphor. That's why it's a popular one. It's a small tool that does lots of things. I think you're overthinking this.

>Victorinox is literally the #1 multitool brand by market share

This doesn't repudiate anything I said, and it's a particularly weird canard.

>That's why it's a popular one

Increasingly the only ones I see leveraging the metaphor are English as a second language writers (note that the idiom originates in English and is a calque in other languages) who perhaps came across it somewhere. I would hardly call it "popular", and I pointed out the reality that many readers, such as myself, find it a negative description, similar to someone calling themselves a "jack of all trades". Your defensiveness of SAK does not change this, and your attempts at invalidating my statement borders on bizarre.

Feel free to continue. I'm done here.

  • > are English as a second language writers who perhaps came across it somewhere

    Your prejudice is showing. Where would you even get an idea like that?

    I hope you understand that people whose first language isn't English also use SAKs. It's not just an English thing. They're not trying to repeat some unknown object they've only encountered in metaphor. The tools are literally Swiss. And popular around the entire world.

    • You’re absolutely right. I was just in Switzerland and I’ll tell you the Victorinox shops have endless visitors from all kinds of tourists. Swiss Army knife metaphor is timeless, at least for those who go out. Maybe there’s a generation where outdoor activities is an unknown because computers. At this point the other person is just being argumentative.

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  • > This doesn't repudiate anything I said, and it's a particularly weird canard.

    It does repudiate it, directly. What are you on about?

    • It doesn't remotely repudiate anything I said, more than saying that Gpvos is the #1 seller of buggy whips ergo ipso facto buggy whips are super popular. This is not a hard logical chain to follow, so good god.

      But secondly, even that site claimed they have what, a 20% marketshare of multitools from once owning the market entirely to themselves? Even if we were so profoundly simple that we believed that being the biggest vendor in a market validates the market, this particular example is hilarious.

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