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Comment by _flux

7 hours ago

Are there modern cheap IMUs that are able to hold position for some time available?

My understanding is that using plain accelerometers and gyros will drift quite soon due to noise, while some cars (e.g. Tesla) maintain their position quite well when doing to an underground parking structure and then coming back. So I actually do believe that they put a lot of weight to tracking wheels, which I believe would not accumulate that much error. (For more precise location they'd still need to use accelerometers to detect downhill/uphill, though.)

So I believe that the precision actually favors wheels, not IMUs.

In the underground parking case it doesn't actually matter too much if there's a certain % offset, because you're very likely driving a near-closed loop of some sort; and as you say, the wheel size ratio can be calibrated upon good GNSS data.

yeah Phones have pretty good IMUs. the TLDR is you combine accelerometers and gyros (preferably a bunch of them to minimize error) with GPS which gives you pretty accurate position and can also give you velocity data with some tricks)

  • But if you don't have GPS, then you don't have a high-confidence low-precision absolute position input to your system? Whereas with wheels you already get a lot of data about that when they are not turning at all.

    A friend tried to make a phone ruler app (using IMU) and the experience was that it didn't take very long for the distance to shoot to the horizon. So, thought I should try how this kind of solution would work with the hardware of today, but it turns out there seem to be zero such apps in the Play Store.. The tools of that category all seem to use a camera.

    I think the lack of these tools is a testament to the approach not really working.