Comment by JumpCrisscross

> jungle is generally stable and doesn't grow in the sense that we say that GDP grows

Jungles today are fantastically more complicated than they were a billion years ago.

Earth’s biosphere’s energy flux is higher today than it was hundreds of billions of years ago [1]. This is due to various metabolic “innovations.” It also occurred because life directly altered Earth’s atmosphere and at least surface geology that made it more conducive to more life [2].

> By contrast, when people talk about sustained growth in economics, they do actually mean growth, an increase in the amount of goods and services consumed

This is not how this fucking paper defines growth. Nor is gross consumption how most models define growth—the word production is right there in GDP.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10288578/

[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-020-00116-w