Comment by autoexec
9 hours ago
They've had the education system they depend on attacked and weakened for generations, they've had fear and distrust of science, experts, and scholars drilled into them, and they've been told countless lies including very comforting lies about what tariffs would mean for them by the very people they were told were the only ones who could be trusted.
I can see the appeal of blaming farmers for getting exactly what they voted for, but honestly they were suckers who were victimized. My hope is that many of them will feel betrayed enough to break free from their indoctrination and start looking for truths and answers outside of the circles which have played them for fools, but that's not going to be an easy process since it'll mean challenging their closest held prejudices and the tearing down and rebuilding of core parts of their identity. That sort of thing is hard enough to do when your world isn't falling apart around you and the last thing the ones who are willing to try need is everyone telling them they deserved what was done to them and that they'll get no sympathy from anyone.
So I thought the same thing but this take persuaded me somewhat. https://youtu.be/badGHJLDpP8?si=5GgFcZky38V0wyCh
I feel as bad for the farmers who voted for this as I feel for the farmers who were hurt by the civil war and the ending of slavery. They knew what they were supporting, thought they would be unaffected and actually benefit from the result.
They are not some dumb poor podunks
Not much sympathy for the dumb, whatever it means. Especially when they drag 8 billion people down such path.
It didnt require stellar IQ, private education or university degree to see clearly what was what. Just basic human decency and very basic moral compass. It went way beyond 'grabbing pussies'.
Stupidity in humanity is endless, literally the only correction system out there is punishment for it. If this is left out, stupidity grows over time and thats a proper doom spiral towards systemic collapse.
This ain't even about social system or cohesion or similar, just pure stupidity. Not losing my sleep for them, far from it. The more brutal examples would happen, the better and louder the correcting lesson will be. There is really no other way out of this, unfortunately. Otherwise next election cycle will result in same/worse and these will be viewed as good rosy times.
That's a very empathetic take. But it's also essentially "society made them do it". When they also clearly voted to root out all their farm labor. They support their own education system.
They've spent enough joy owning the libs and scorning education. It's just FAFO.
The US has one of the biggest propaganda machines in history keeping these people in their place, operating through multiple vectors of disinformation, including mainstream media, social media, podcasts, and churches.
There is zero chance most of them are going to wake up any time soon.
The bailouts will help some of them, but many are going to lose their farms to "investors" - who will be linked to Trump. And not even that will be enough to make them shift their opinions.
The one thing that could break the dam is a public release of the Epstein files. But that's a different topic.
> The one thing that could break the dam is a public release of the Epstein files.
It won't. Grabbing pussies, bribes, clear lies everywhere, cheating, felonies re taxes, attempt to overthrow government. Nothing, absolutely nothing.
Some added hebephilia charges wont convince anybody to change their mind. And that relationship is pretty clear, they were very good friends.
What you can do - start calling staunch supporters pedophilles supporters. You family, friends, colleagues, en masse. Change may come from the bottom, its still a toxic word that nobody wants to be associated with, even transitively. Nothing changes from the top.
I am not holding my breath, this is new bottom since we abandoned kings and warlords.