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Comment by hiimkeks

1 day ago

D) They don't enable E2EE for groups at all

E) (I believe) don't enable E2EE with more than one device

F) They added a third-party verification so that Russian authorities can add an "A+" mark to channels who are complying with the new law and are registered (social network channels/blogs with more than 10K subscribers must be registered with the government now and have the owner identified).

D) True aside from group calls afaik

E) Neither does Whatsapp/Signal; they rely on a backdoor interface to your phone to send messages.

  • Signal very definitely does multiparty end-to-end secure messaging.

    • Weird, every time I mention Signal on HN tptacek responds.

      But I'm having trouble discerning what you mean.

      Either you're saying group chats are encrypted E2EE - which, I never claimed.

      Or, you're mentioning that you can have multiple phones/devices on the same account, which doesn't work the last time I checked.

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  • E) Yet it works fine on Matrix.

    • I've tried to use Matrix a few times and eventually end up leaving. The idea is good, but it's just missing so many nice features that it kinda isn't worth the pain. Features that Telegram just keeps dropping like candy.

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