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Comment by JumpCrisscross

1 day ago

> solved it by borrowing from the future and gutting their R&D

Not relevant to unit profitability. Tesla’s American competitors can’t turn a profit on each car production-wise.

> man also walks a very thin line between engineering outcomes and fraud

Sure. But the point is to the degree investors were misled, they were made whole and then some. That’s why they keep backing him. He’s done well by them, regardless of the methods.

> Not relevant to unit profitability. Tesla’s American competitors can’t turn a profit on each car production-wise.

To quote a great commenter here, you can "engineer that outcome". While there are rules, details are mushy and as a result companies can fairly freely decide what do you include in cost per unit.

  • > While there are rules, details are mushy

    Is there anyone credibly claiming that Tesla loses--or has always lost--money on every car it made? (I'm including the proviso in case they fucked up their production in the last year, which I both wouldn't be surprised by and haven't looked into.)