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Comment by Dylan16807

4 months ago

In this analogy, you ask and they decline to promise anything concrete about the future, just saying that they currently have no plans to change. Their statement is the same any time they're asked, with no early warning via that method.

And, reminder, they keep encouraging people to use the party as an important foundation for their own efforts.

Does that help explain why a sudden stop is causing harm to people that weren't being greedy? At which point anger is not an inherently bratty behavior.

If someone says “we have no plans to stop hosting this party, but we can’t promise anything concrete” and you decide to depend on that party without a backup, you’re behaving like an idiot.

This analogy has been tortured to within an inch of its life though.

People could keep using the old docker images while they trivially build their own.

If you want to make the example fit it’s more like “hey we’re still having the party but we aren’t gonna to put up any new decorations. If you want to put up the new decorations we left our garage open, but you have to do it yourself“.

  • The docker users do generally have a backup. But being shoved onto a backup sucks, and with no warning it's even worse.

    That level of promise is what you get with 95% or more of products and services. It's not like you can avoid it.

    I understand the impulse to say that these expectations are unreasonable so nobody should get mad. But when companies cultivate those expectations on purpose, it stops being unreasonable to get mad.

    • >Being shoved onto a backup

      What do they do when a server is down?

      >But when companies cultivate those expectations on purpose, it stops being unreasonable to get mad.

      On the one hand I get that. But on the other hand, I see the exact same anger when it’s just some guy or a 2 person company that decides to stop doing some work for free.

      If you limit your argument to it’s scummy for a company to offer something for free with the goal of creating a dependency that they can exploit by removing the free version and then offering a paid version, then I agree.

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