We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons. And because it can't get the latest OS, it can no longer run Signal, or the latest Adobe stuff that we need. So we ditched Apple and bought a Dell. So far it's working great.
> We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons
That CPU was dropped from Windows 10 support with 22H2, pretty much the same time that Apple stopped supporting it in macOS. The last build of Windows 10 supporting that CPU reached "end of service" more than two years ago.
For certain non-critical computers (like my Mac mini in the living room whose primary job is to run Spotify), you might want to look at Open Core - which will let you update to a modern macOS.
It’s a great feeling to get years more life out of your old system with about an hour of work.
Seems to imply that anyone cares beyond a niche. I use Windows 11 on my gaming PC and emulator PC, and I don't care at all. It works perfectly fine.
OS X is much worse in my opinion, with awful window management and constant bugs breaking basic functionality.
The only decent OS experience I've ever had is with KDE and Gnome. But Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.
> Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.
This isn't true in the slightest. You must be dealing with some seriously outdated information.
I've been running games on Linux full time for 3 years. I made the switch the week Elden Ring launched when it immediately ran better on Linux than on Windows. That was the top selling game at the time. I've had extremely minimal performance issues since my switch. Other major games I've run include Baldur's Gate 3, multiple Resident Evil games, and the Oblivion remaster.
I'm running a 7600X with a 9070XT as of last month and am finding my hardware is perfectly fine.
Does it support all anti cheat and DRM? Does PCVR work well? What about old Windows rhythm games (with emulators like spice2x)? Until it has 100% coverage I’m not gonna drop Windows.
Nope, because outside Ferrari priced laptops, there is no choice on regular consumer stores.
The option is between Windows, ChromeOS and Android based laptops (aka tablets with keyboards).
Thus most consumers without endless budgets end up getting a Windows laptop, regardless of its current state.
We had the option with Linux, however first all netbooks already showed the trend with OEMs distros (gotta differentiate), Microsoft reacted, and tablets delivered the final blow.
Ideally there would be nice laptops with other options at consumer shops that people during their Weekend window shopping tour would feel like buying on a whim.
It's hard to see someone living under a rock for this long suddenly deciding to switch the Mac.
I suspect iPhone adoption has done a lot more toward Mac adoption.
I was under that rock. Bought a used M1 pro this year for $600 and tossed the wheezing XPS 15 aside.
We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons. And because it can't get the latest OS, it can no longer run Signal, or the latest Adobe stuff that we need. So we ditched Apple and bought a Dell. So far it's working great.
> We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons
That CPU was dropped from Windows 10 support with 22H2, pretty much the same time that Apple stopped supporting it in macOS. The last build of Windows 10 supporting that CPU reached "end of service" more than two years ago.
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For certain non-critical computers (like my Mac mini in the living room whose primary job is to run Spotify), you might want to look at Open Core - which will let you update to a modern macOS.
It’s a great feeling to get years more life out of your old system with about an hour of work.
Get back to us if that Dell makes it 10 years without catastrophic failure or pieces falling off.
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> the Windows 11 debacle
Seems to imply that anyone cares beyond a niche. I use Windows 11 on my gaming PC and emulator PC, and I don't care at all. It works perfectly fine.
OS X is much worse in my opinion, with awful window management and constant bugs breaking basic functionality.
The only decent OS experience I've ever had is with KDE and Gnome. But Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.
Pick your poison.
> Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.
This isn't true in the slightest. You must be dealing with some seriously outdated information.
I've been running games on Linux full time for 3 years. I made the switch the week Elden Ring launched when it immediately ran better on Linux than on Windows. That was the top selling game at the time. I've had extremely minimal performance issues since my switch. Other major games I've run include Baldur's Gate 3, multiple Resident Evil games, and the Oblivion remaster.
I'm running a 7600X with a 9070XT as of last month and am finding my hardware is perfectly fine.
Does it support all anti cheat and DRM? Does PCVR work well? What about old Windows rhythm games (with emulators like spice2x)? Until it has 100% coverage I’m not gonna drop Windows.
How're you finding the 9070XT? Are you gaming in 4K and/or with freesync?
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Linux is fantastic at running games, and there is beginning to be good Linux/x86 hardware.
Linux compatibility is very high, and Linux install base is becoming a considerable size of total PC gaming market.
Depends where on the world the people are located and their budget for laptops beyond 500 euros.
> Windows 11 debacle
Do you really think that anything MSFT has done with MW11 --unfriendly to consumers or not-- will significantly impede the success of MW11?
It's more what they haven't done - i.e. make it work on customer's computers.
According to TechRadar this is exactly what has driven the uptick in Mac sales:
https://www.techradar.com/computing/macbooks/never-mind-linu...
Nope, because outside Ferrari priced laptops, there is no choice on regular consumer stores.
The option is between Windows, ChromeOS and Android based laptops (aka tablets with keyboards).
Thus most consumers without endless budgets end up getting a Windows laptop, regardless of its current state.
We had the option with Linux, however first all netbooks already showed the trend with OEMs distros (gotta differentiate), Microsoft reacted, and tablets delivered the final blow.
Ideally there would be nice laptops with other options at consumer shops that people during their Weekend window shopping tour would feel like buying on a whim.
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