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Comment by hammock

4 months ago

Why would the US send unredacted personal email of justices and senators to a foreign country?

To circumvent US law prohibiting spying on Americans.

It's cute, really. Country A turns a blind eye and even helps country B vacuum all of it's citizen's data. Then country B gifts back to A. And vice versa.

Since country A didn't do the surveillance, it didn't break any laws. Furthermore, it's legal to accept data from third parties.

As to why country A would allow even its senators and congressmen to be spied on by B? That's obvious - country A's intel agencies are most interested in their budget!

But this is a special case. It's Israel.

  • And why would country A’s lawmakers allow that legal loophole to be used against themselves? They wrote the laws no? Or are they being blackmailed, or is their power a facade?

    • Congressmen don't have classified access by default. Even those involved in oversight often rely on briefings which are written by the people potentially breaking the law and include whatever they choose to include, or not. It's akin to regulatory authorities that operate by asking those being regulated 'Are you still operating under all appropriate regulations?'

      And laws are also written extremely broadly, which gives the intelligence agencies extreme leeway in interpreting them as they see fit. And even if they go beyond that, it's not like there are any consequences. For one of the most overt - James Clapper indisputably lied under oath and absolutely nothing happened. Furthermore politicians are generally ignorant on most topics, especially on anything remotely technically related. But revealing that ignorance is politically damaging, so they turn into yes men on most of these topics.

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  • Country A can just a well turn a blind eye on direct spying like it has done so numerous times in the past.

    > Since country A didn't do the surveillance, it didn't break any laws.

    Of course it did, that's where the data came from!

1. We don't have a right to privacy.

2. The power of the constitution ends at the border.

It's pretty sick, but that's what it amounts to. The CIA can't operate within US borders but it can operate at and outside borders. That means sending messages internationally are fair game for warrant-less searches.

  • That doesn’t explain why lawmakers would allow their own government to (indirectly) spy on them. Or are they so full of integrity that they would say “I must be spied on as well as my constituents, you know, for fairness”? /s

Because it places a higher priority on the desires of that foreign country than on the privacy of its justices and senators?