← Back to context Comment by nprateem 5 days ago Anyone who believes an algorithm could be conscious needs to take mushrooms. 6 comments nprateem Reply visarga 5 days ago Consider the river metaphor: water carves the banks, banks channel the water. At any moment water and banks have the same shape.Model/algorithm is the banks. Water could be the experiences. Maybe the algorithm does not have consciousness, but it is part of it.They co-create each other. They are part of a recursive loop which cannot be explained statically, or part by part in isolation. levitatorius 5 days ago Yes! If algorithm is conscious (without being alive) then the eaten magic mushroom is also very conscious, judged by it's effect on the subject. vidarh 5 days ago Unless you can show me you can exceed the Turing computable, there is no reason to consider you any more than an algorithm. nprateem 5 days ago Take a big enough dose and the mushrooms will show you that. vidarh 1 day ago Unless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort. 1 reply →
visarga 5 days ago Consider the river metaphor: water carves the banks, banks channel the water. At any moment water and banks have the same shape.Model/algorithm is the banks. Water could be the experiences. Maybe the algorithm does not have consciousness, but it is part of it.They co-create each other. They are part of a recursive loop which cannot be explained statically, or part by part in isolation.
levitatorius 5 days ago Yes! If algorithm is conscious (without being alive) then the eaten magic mushroom is also very conscious, judged by it's effect on the subject.
vidarh 5 days ago Unless you can show me you can exceed the Turing computable, there is no reason to consider you any more than an algorithm. nprateem 5 days ago Take a big enough dose and the mushrooms will show you that. vidarh 1 day ago Unless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort. 1 reply →
nprateem 5 days ago Take a big enough dose and the mushrooms will show you that. vidarh 1 day ago Unless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort. 1 reply →
vidarh 1 day ago Unless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort. 1 reply →
Consider the river metaphor: water carves the banks, banks channel the water. At any moment water and banks have the same shape.
Model/algorithm is the banks. Water could be the experiences. Maybe the algorithm does not have consciousness, but it is part of it.
They co-create each other. They are part of a recursive loop which cannot be explained statically, or part by part in isolation.
Yes! If algorithm is conscious (without being alive) then the eaten magic mushroom is also very conscious, judged by it's effect on the subject.
Unless you can show me you can exceed the Turing computable, there is no reason to consider you any more than an algorithm.
Take a big enough dose and the mushrooms will show you that.
Unless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort.
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