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Comment by mmooss

3 days ago

I rarely see manifolds applied directly to cartographic map projections, which I've read about a bit, though the latter seem like just one instance of the former. Does anyone know why cartographers don't use manifolds, or mathematicians don't apply them to cartography? (Have I just overlooked it?)

One reason is that it would be like hanging a picture using a sledgehammer. If you're just studying various ways of unwrapping a sphere, the (very deep) theory of manifolds is not necessary. I'm not a cartographer but I would assume they care mostly about how space is distorted in the projection, and have developed appropriate ways of dealing with that already.

Another is that when working with manifolds, you usually don't get a set of global coordinates. Manifolds are defined by various local coordinate charts. A smooth manifold just means that you can change coordinates in a smooth (differentiable) way, but that doesn't mean two people on opposite sides of the manifold will agree on their coordinate system. On a sphere or circle, you can get an "almost global" coordinate system by removing the line or point where the coordinates would be ambiguous.

I'm not very well versed in the history, but the study of cartography certainly predates the modern idea of an abstract manifold. In fact, the modern view was born in an effort to unify a lot of classical ideas from the study of calculus on spheres etc.

  • Thanks. I've thought about those possibilites, but I really don't know the reasons.

    > On a sphere or circle, you can get an "almost global" coordinate system by removing the line or point where the coordinates would be ambiguous.

    Applying cartography to manifolds: Meridians and parallels form a non-ambiguous global coordinate system on a sphere. It's an irregular system because distance between meridians varies with distance from the poles (i.e., the distance is much greater at the equator than the poles), but there is a unique coordinate for every point on the sphere.

    • The problem is that this global coordinate system isn't a continuous mapping (see the discontinuity of both angular coordinates between 2*pi and 0). Manifolds are required to have an "atlas"[0]: a collection of coordinate systems ("charts") that cover the space and are continuous mappings from open subsets of the underlying topological space to open subsets of Euclidean space, with the overlaps between charts inducing smooth (i.e., infinitely differentiable) mappings in Euclidean space.

      Colloquially, this means a manifold is just "a bunch of patches of n-dimensional Euclidean space, smoothly sewn together."

      A sphere requires at least two charts for an admissible atlas (say two hemispheres overlapping slightly at the equator, or six hemispheres with no overlaps), otherwise you get discontinuities.

      [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(topology)

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