Comment by PAPPPmAc
3 hours ago
I find hosted/hybrid machines particularly fascinating, so I have a 6100/66 DOS with a Houdini II Nubus card and a Education-market LC with the Gemini-based Apple IIe PDS card that I've collected over the years.
They are ...weird... machines.
Both have a (different) extremely bespoke Y cable that are almost required, such that if you find a card separated from the cable, you probably shouldn't pay much for it.
The IIe card has a little lag in the video circuitry compared to the real thing (at least in a first gen LC host, apparently that problem goes away if you stick it in a faster machine with a 24-bit PDS slot).
Coaxing the Houdini II to boot things that are not fundamentally MSDOS is always a good way to throw away a couple hours, but it does a great job of convincing anything up to Win95 that it's a PC. Performance is absurdly better with dedicated RAM.
There are a couple other things in the family, the MacCharlie and AST Mac86/Mac286 products for bolting PC hardware onto various Macs, and the later OrangePC cards (they ended up with the IP from both Apple and ASTs offerings). The apex of "weird hosted computers you can stick in a Mac" are probably the MacIvory (LISP machine on a NuBus card) products, but those are "costly and rare," and are infamously balky even if you do get the hardware (...and I just don't enjoy Lisp).
Sun had a SunPC/SunPCi line in the same vein that will bolt a PC-on-a-card into various SPARC hosts.
Commodore had that first-party Sidecar product with a PC-XT in a box for Amigas, and there was ShapeShifter that would let you fake a Mac semi-native on a 68k Amiga. Likewise DayDream (recently updated into DarkMatter) to run a Mac environment on a 68k NeXT host, both of which "needed" Mac ROMs attached on a dongle for license reasons.
MAE is emulation, but it was an Apple-blessed way to run MacOS hosted on contemporary Unix workstations of the early 90s, which is sort of the opposite. I've managed to prod it onto a (real) PA-RISC/HPUX host, and (emulated, because my SS20 has been super balky as long as I've had it) SPARC/Solaris host just for sport - I'm pretty sure it was built out of decapitated A/UX parts and an emulator when A/UX4 didn't happen.
I'd like to round out my set with at least a IIe with a Premium Softcard IIe at some point, but I'm not willing to pay ebay prices for any of that stuff.
Both the Apple LCII with the Apple //e card, 5-1/4 drive for it and the Apple //e joystick and the PowerMac 6100/60 with the DOS Compatibility card exists somewhere in my parent’s house.
I have no idea where my 5-1/4 disks are. But I know where the 3-1/2 disks are for my Mac. They aren’t in the attic. They are in my childhood bedroom.
My old Apple //e though is lost forever.
I don’t have any real sentimental attachment to the hardware. If anything, i am going to eventually take the time to rin emulators on my Mac.
Since the 6100/60, I’ve only bought them three Macs - a G4 Mac Mini, an Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini and my current M2 MacBook Air. The rest have been cheap PCs. I don’t really use my personal computer for much of anything.