Comment by maxglute
5 hours ago
Glad you listed, because that data shows apart from Sino Vietnamese almost half a century ago, PRC launched basically no wars of aggression, i.e. everything including SCS was territorial defense, i.e just. And if it was in chart form, the peace disease lull in last 30 years relative to PRC growth makes modern PRC rise the most unprescedently peaceful in modern history, borderline on absurdly serenity. Truly somehting to emulate. Can you believe those Eurocusk gave a Peace prize to Obama?
The invasion of Zhenbao island was "territorial defense", really?
Before asking this question, can you Google "Zhenbao Island" first?
ask how serene fishermen in the area are while their country sovereignty on internationally recognized territorial water is infringed upon regularly
Except you know, NOT internationally recognized except to manufactured misconception by headline scanning useful idiots. Reminder PH PCA ruling is not actual international law, as in recognized by UN/UNCLOS, ITLOS, ICJ. TBH its demonstrably stupid to even hold the position UNCLOS can rule on sovereignty claims - they fucking can't. To suggest PRC is infringing on others maritime entitlement in SCS is so stupid it's not even wrong because under UNCLOS it's not even legally possible. And also you know, who cares about a few butthurt fisherman, lol, like that's mild as fuck complaints on the spectrum of territorial drama. Every time people bring up muh fisherman they're just highlighting how generous PRC is behaving.
Way to move the goalposts. GGP asked for wars within the last century, and GP provided such a list.
Regardless, not sure why any of this matters. I'm not one of those "China bad!" hand-wringers, but if you don't believe the Chinese government is a threat to western countries' sovereignty and economies, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
It's explaining / contextualizing the data, aka most of that list is "defensive" and limited in scope, which different vs products from actors who are expeditionary happy. The data shows PRC... having inherited 14 land borders conflicts from ROC, have largely limited use of force to just territorial sovereingty issues, which btw 12/14 have been resolved in last 40 years, essentially all with PRC concessions. Combine with PRC growth and subsequent rise, PRC peace is historic abboration, i.e. the PRC threat to wesern sovereignty is FUD outside customary state activities like espionage. Now if west wants to weaponize PRC threat/FUD to disguise the threat to genuinely competitive PRC products that will stomp their domestic industries, then sure, that's geopolitics 101.
Why don't you go see what the PRC's neighbors think about your "territorial defense" claims about these activities in the SCS?
And what's the going rate for posting this nonsense online?
You mean the 12/14 land borders disputee who settled with PRC ceding 50%+ concessions. Probably very happy because again objectively that is magnanimous by historic standards. For SCS where PRc offers to share but retarded democratic countries can't becausen itd political suicide, even now it's really just PH being a cunt. Otherwise unsettled land borders left is India and Bhutan because bhutan border ratification is linked to India's. So the answer is most of the neighbours think PRC did them a solid. Going rate for free math lesson that PRC has equals/most borders in the world and relations with most neighbours are good is free. Combo free geopolitical lesson that it's not good with the ones with US military cooperation that generates most propaganda.
No, that's not what I'm talking about, and you probably should get your information on foreign affairs from somewhere other than China Daily.
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