Comment by Arisaka1
3 months ago
Every time I read about new .NET version improvements I always remember my attempt to get a job using this stack in my local job market (Greece), where .NET Framework is super prevalent, majorly used by classic companies that don't even give you a fair technical chance if you lack a degree, and the devs are considered to be a cost center.
I really, REALLY wish I was in another timeline where I could say in an interview "yes, I use Linux on my desktop and Rider for my IDE" without being seen as a traveler from outer space.
I enjoy working with modern C# way more than node.js but... that's it.
> don't even give you a fair technical chance if you lack a degree, and the devs are considered to be a cost center.
I've never considered how lucky I am to live in the U.S. and to work at a company that absolutely sees the dev team to be a huge asset rather than another cost. The amount of time, money, stress we've saved by not allowing bad code to enter the code base.. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, I've had such great success hiring people without degrees. Truly some of our best contributors came from entirely different career paths. Same applies for some designers I work with.
A bit off-topic, bit hiring exceptional .NET developers is like searching for a needle in a haystack. Way more people have a ton of experience with JS and marginal experience with .NET, just writing very basic API endpoints - yet claiming serious experience.
If you came to me for an interview, your story would have been a breath of fresh air. So maybe try to mention it anyway, someone will be interested.
I've managed big .Net teams. 99% of .Net devs are very, very average. Just crunching out lines of code with little care for quality, performance, readability etc. The best .Net dev I ever hired didn't know a single thing about it; brought him in as the most junior role to tinker with some HTML and within two years he had massively outclassed me.
> I really, REALLY wish I was in another timeline where I could say in an interview "yes, I use Linux on my desktop and Rider for my IDE" without being seen as a traveler from outer space.
Could you please elaborate? Are you referring to most .NET shops not straying away from Windowsland?
It's not about what the company uses, but how informed the technical people responsible for hiring candidates are around the ecosystem they claim they work with.
Example:
Expected: "Oh, you're on Linux? I heard about Rider. We use Windows and Visual Studio here for parity. You're okay with that, right?" (me: Obviously, tools are tools)
Actual: "Does .NET run on Linux? What is Rider?"
I mean, .NET has been running on Linux since forever now (11 years according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9459513, let's say about 9 for stability because I feel generous). How do they not know about it?
There's still a lot of folks who consider themselves .Net experts who don't know how to program with async/await, so knowing about a niche IDE (which I also exclusively use) is asking a lot for those people.
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You should try to get a job in Azure, you’d feel right at home!
.net462 baby!
More like 4.6.2
Somehow, .NET jobs seem be tied to waterfall processes ("but we are still agile, because we release two times a year"), requirements in OneNote, and a 5 kg Windows laptop.
What an absolute load of bullshit.