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Comment by recursive

7 hours ago

I use YouTube on a daily basis. I haven't seen any of these problems.

It is likely you use Chrome or a browser that uses Blink for its engine and the OP uses a non-blink browser like Firefox. I use Firefox and I can cofirm since the last few months Youtube usability borders on usable

  • They've also started to be really aggressive against VPNs. I've tried Private Internet Access, Mulvad and AirVPN and often I have to cycle through 5-15(!) servers before YouTube stops saying "sign in to confirm you're not a bot".

    Discord has started to become absurdly aggressive with it too, to the point that they don't even let you load messages whilst logged in if you're on a VPN.

    It really makes me feel like there will be an inflection point in a few years, where the internet is cleaved in two. You'll have the 'free' internet that is full of interesting stuff but also full of malware, spam and scams, and you'll have the squeaky clean corporate internet, basically a facsimile of WeChat's super-app, of which you'll only have access with a government ID. No VPNs or anti-fingerprinting allowed.

    • > It really makes me feel like there will be an inflection point in a few years, where the internet is cleaved in two.

      Hasn't it been like that for already many years?

      arguably, already 90's AOL very much pushed its users to stay within its walled garden.

    • For Discord it is basic rate limiting ( anty-VPN is other separate thing require phone number )

      There a bunch of bad actors doing mass scrape of all public server and history via all of those VPN

  • I use it on Firefox and Safari on Mac OS (mainly Safari), and it's been OK except it's started doing a thing where it blips a bit after roughly the first 1sec of video plays.

    I wonder if being a YouTube Premium subscriber is also a factor here. I do pay for it so I don't see ads. But maybe the way ads are being served/injected has changed things for the worse for people that get them.

  • Interesting. I use Firefox and it works flawlessly for me. I wonder if it's a computing power thing?

  • YT works pretty flawlessly for me with firefox on debian. What's the issue you're seeing?

    • If you are blocking ads now, the videos will start in a very delayed fashion almost as if the server is waiting the length expected for the ad to take before streaming you any bytes.

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  • I use Firefox with uBlock and besides a couple of times where video start was delayed by a few seconds it has been working as well as before.

    • Google does A/B testing for anti ad blockers.

      Not only do I get slowdowns and some videos don't load at all at times, but I also get a notification that explains that the reason is using adblockers.

    • For the last two days I haven't been able to watch youtube videos on Firefox without disabling uBlock.

    • Recently I've found Youtube to just show a white screen if it detects Firefox+uBO.

  • Yeah, big same here. It’s pretty frustrating, because I pay for YouTube premium, but cannot use my preferred browser. I have to use Chromium in order to have it work reliably. Doubly so considering it worked fine in Firefox for YEARS… until maybe six months ago?

    It feels like something the FTC should be investigating, or perhaps a European equivalent, but I doubt it will.

  • I use Chrome and it's not good. They recently removed ability to force AV1 to only low resolution videos and as a result I had to disable HW acceleration in Chrome because accelerated AV1 decoding is broken on Steam Deck.

Well... I have many new, emerging problems with YouTube as of lately.

For example I have to scroll down a lot to get to the comment section, the suggestions are all over the place, and so forth. Annoying.

Also due to uBlock Origin, some videos do not start and I have to refresh. It is not much of an issue for me but the fact that apparently I need a huge monitor to see the "old layout" is a problem for me.

Since some days I suddenly get freezes in the tab; these unfreeze after some time, say 20 seconds or so, but I notice a delay.

Something has really changed to the worse lately. I think it has to do with anti-ad programs as well as AI, like the UI also changed. It is important to point out that while you do not have any issues, other people do or may.

  • I've been seeing weird stuff where the video will play but the page is unresponsive: can't click to pause, can't click the time index bar to move to a different point in the video, etc. Then I close the tab, and the audio keeps playing! It will play for 10-15 seconds before cutting out. Bizarre. . .

  • I had that happen some week ago too! I had to clear site data + cookies for YouTube in Firefox before I got it to work again.

do you never encounter opening youtube video in a new tab only for video itself to load, while rest of the page doesn't?