Comment by wkat4242
5 hours ago
If OpenAI hadn't used data from the NYT without permission in the first place this wouldn't have happened. That is the root cause of all this.
I'm glad the NYT is fighting them. They've infringed the rights of almost every news outlet but someone has to bring this case.
They infringed nothing. Two judges have already ruled that training on copyrighted data is fair use https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/two-california-distr...
Exactly. And the OpenAI corporates speak acting like they give a shit about our best interests. Give me a break, Sam Altman. How stupid do you think everyone is?
They have proven that they are the most untrustworthy company on the planet
And this isn't AI fear speaking. This is me raging at Sam Altman for spreading so much fear, uncertainty, and doubt just to get investments. The rest of us have to suffer for the last two years, worrying about losing our jobs, only to find out the AGI lie is complete bullsh*t.
To me, no company has the customers’ best interests in mind. This whole thing is akin to when Apple was refusing to unlock phones for the FBI. Of course, Apple profits by having people think that they take privacy seriously, and they demonstrate it by protecting users’ privacy. Same thing here; OpenAI needs chats to have some expectation of privacy, especially because a large use case of AI is personal advice on things. So they are fighting to make sure it's true.
> To me, no company has the customers’ best interests in mind.
Lavabit opted to stop operating rather than give the FBI access to client emails.
https://archive.ph/20200915083857/https://www.nytimes.com/20...
Both OpenAI and NYT are bad. I don't know about NYT's privacy policy, because that's not really the industry they're in, but they did admit to fabricating a story that led to a now 2-year-long war, so.
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NYT on the internet is pure garbage. I'm really sad that when they challenged Google they didn't just drop and ban them from the index. There's zero reason for NYT to pollute the internet for me and everyone like me that won't ever pay them a cent.
NYT links leading to a paywall are the worst kind of spam.
They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.
It's absolutely disgusting how they are allowed to freeload on the attention that the open culture provides, contributing nothing but short garbage blurbs that are worse than generated by LLMs.
> They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.
Does open culture mean free? Are you willing to work for free? It is perfectly OK to sell goods in exchange for money, which is what NYT is doing.
I dont know why you're so upset with it. You cant walk into Apple Store and except to walk away with a free iPhone. Then why are you expecting to "walk" into nytimes' website and walk away with free article?
everyone like me that won't ever pay them a cent.
Yeah, how terrible that you should be expected to spend /eleven minutes/ of the average U.S. tech worker's salary for a month of information. Perish the thought.
They should sell their stuff by mail
You're in luck! You can subscribe to the New York Times by mail, just like you want.