Comment by scotty79
7 days ago
> Of course everyone can make art. Toddlers make art.
That's my entire point. Artists were fine with everybody making "art" as long as everybody except them (with their hard fought skill and dedication) achieved toddler level of output quality. As soon as everybody could truly get even close to the level of actual art, not toddler art, suddenly there's a horrible problem with all the amateur artists using the tools that are available to them to make their "toddler" art.
Most artists don’t give a flying fuck about what you do on your own. Seriously! They really don’t. What they care about is having their work ripped off so for-profit companies can kill the market for their hard-won skills with munged-up derivatives.
Folks in tech generally have very limited exposure to the art world — fan art communities online, Reddit subs, YouTubers, etc. It’s more representative of internet culture than the art world— no more representative of artists than X politics is representative of voters. People have real grievances here and you are not a victim of the world’s artists. Most artists also don’t care about online art communities or what you think about them. Not even a little bit.
> you are not a victim of the world’s artists
I will be if they manage to slow down development of AI even by a smidgen.
> Most artists also don’t care about online art communities or what you think about them. Not even a little bit.
Fully agree. They care about whether there's going to be anyone willing to buy their stuff from them. And not-toddler art is a real competition for them. So they are super against everybody making it.
Well drat, you’ve exposed all of us, from art directors to VFX artists to fine art painters to singer-songwriters to graphic designers to game designers to symphony cellists as a monolithic glob of petty, transactional rakes. Fortunately, everyone is an artist now, so you can make your own output to feed to models and leave our work out of it entirely! It clearly has no value so nobody should be mad about going without it. Problem solved!
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Well but then they spent 100 years telling us that the toddler stuff was the good stuff. Just as long as it was created by a “real artist”.
Making value statements about art is pretty much exclusively the realm of art critics and art historians. They're no more representative of artists than general historians are representative of politicians and soldiers.