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Comment by sroussey

12 hours ago

Coffee makes me jittery but espresso (or lattes) do not. Is this why?

Yes, but it might also be that you're drinking "coffee" (I assume you mean drip / pour-over) in the morning when you are just out of bed and have almost nothing in your stomach. Whereas the espresso you're drinking at a shop later in the day, probably already with breakfast in your stomach and maybe you're ordering a snack with it.

  • why would it matter what's in your stomach? caffeine goes pretty quickly to the blood stream, right?

    • Caffeine is a stimulant, acting on the sympatheitc nervous system. If you're also activating the parasympathetic nervous system, like by eating a meal, the effect won't be as strong.

      Another effect of caffeine is as an adenosine re-uptake antagonist. Adenosine levels are usually low in the morning, so the effect is small. Later in the day, it can have a bigger effect on how alert you feel.

    • having a full stomach has a moderating effect on most drug uptake.

    • I heard that the anxiety from caffeine is worse when you haven’t eaten. No time to check resources for that at the moment

Maybe?

As an espresso drinker with a good machine and grinder, and lots of variety with mostly Italian beans, it depends, as the OP already indicated. I only buy low or at most middle caffein content beans to begin with, but you can get high caffeine beans for espresso easily. Easiest method: Increase the amount of Robusta.

Good vendors should have things like caffein content in their product description. I mostly buy from an online vendor that lists the exact roast date and also shows caffein content for each product (https://www.espresso-international.com/ - their only disadvantage is the use of some pretty light GRAY for most text, another topic, too many websites do this for reasons I cannot understand).

Many years ago, when I still lived in the Bay Area, the Cappuccino I got at a certain Berkeley coffee shop always made my heart go BOOM BOOM BOOM. Whatever concoction they brewed certainly had very high caffein (and I hated it, but the place was great). The ones I make myself now I can drink at 10 pm and be completely fine (I only drink 2-4 max espresso per day, and can easily drink zero if I'm away and have no access to good espresso, so I'm not addicted and just "used to it").

Sometimes I compromise and buy medium caffein beans when it's something good, but those I can feel just a little.

All of that just means you have to exert some control over which beans you consume, if you want to keep caffein low. On the plus side, if you stick to 80%-100% Arabica (the rest Robusta) it's not hard at all. If you like mixes with high Robusta ratio it gets much harder. Caffein free roasts exist though (examples: https://www.espresso-international.com/decaffeinated-coffee), but that choice severely limits your options.

  • > (and I hated it, but the place was great)

    That's a mystifying statement. Why go if you found the coffee so unpleasant?

    Decor?

The biggest thing is what kind of "coffee" you mean by coffee -- cold brew in particular tends to be a much higher extraction % since the bitter notes you get on higher extractions are less noticeable at colder temperatures. The rest is what the sibling responses mention -- time of day and speed of absorption in the digestive system can have big impacts.

Espresso beans typically have different (darker) roast profile from filter so some of it maybe due to that