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Comment by the__alchemist

14 hours ago

IMO the memory safety aspect is overblown by enthusiasts and purists. Rust is an overall nice fast imperative language.

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phplovesong  13 hours ago

Rust WAS really nice before it got mangled with syntax like we never seen before. Graydon did not imagine rust as what it is today. Rust core wo. async is ok, but in practice rust projects tend to have hundreds of deps and really slow compiles. Its just like javascript with npm.

  • swiftcoder  13 hours ago

    > in practice rust projects tend to have hundreds of deps

    That's really just any language with a built-in package manager. Go somewhat sidesteps this by making you vendor your dependencies, but very few other languages escape the ballooning dependency graph.

    • phplovesong  12 hours ago

      Go has probably more packages than Rust, but i rarely see Go projects that use as many as rust. In Go the usuals are depending on the app, possibly some db drivers, a simple router and maybe some crypto related thing. Most projects do fine with just the stdlib. In rust i tend to see 100 deps, and 1000 transient deps. Compile times are not in seconds, but minutes.

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  • the__alchemist  12 hours ago

    This is a concern when viewing the Rust experience. It can be avoided by judiciously choosing dependencies that you need, and that have shallow trees of their own. I like to distinguish the rust lang from The rust OSS community. They overlap, but can be treated separately if you exercise case.