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Comment by userbinator

3 months ago

For those who actually want to learn languages which are "fundamentally changing how you think about software", I'd recommend the Lisp family and APL family.

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zwnow  3 months ago

I'd also throw Erlang/Elixir out there. And I really wished Elm wasn't such a trainwreck of a project...

  • matu3ba  3 months ago

    What is the most optimal Erlang/Elixir you can think of regarding standardized effect systems for recording non-determinism, replaying and reversible computing? How comparable are performance numbers of Erlang/Elixir with Java and wasm?

    • zwnow  3 months ago

      I'd recommend asking the Elixir community about this as I didn't even understand your question. I am by no means a professional with Erlang/Elixir. I threw it out there because these language force you to think differently compared to common OOP languages.

  • 59nadir  3 months ago

    No need to include Elixir here; none of the important bits that will change how you view software come from Elixir, it's just a skin on top of Erlang (+ some standard library wrappers) and that's it.

    • zwnow  3 months ago

      I'd argue more people use Elixir over Erlang at this point. Sure its just an abstraction on top of Erlang, but people learn through Elixir nowadays, not through Erlang.

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miki123211  3 months ago

Am I correct that you can essentially "learn APL without learning APL" by just learning Numpy / Pytorch?

I looked at array languages briefly, and my impression was that"ooh this is just Numpy but weirder."