Comment by luke727
12 hours ago
> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere.
They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.
12 hours ago
> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere.
They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.
This is the funniest thing, considering it lacks 90% of the features included freeware text editors written in some student's spare time back in the 90s.
It's basically a fancy textbox.
Microsoft's own people can't use the toolkits they write, as evidenced by the React component in the start menu(!)
They can, the problem is that apparently they aren't able to hire people nowadays with Win32 development experience, so they get interns that have grown in US universities with macOS and Linux, which sundenly have a Win32 developer role.
That is how you end up with web garbage in what was supposed to be native code, or .NET.
I think this is also a reason why WinUI efforts went down the drain.
They laid off a lot of people with Win32 experience in the past couple of years. If that was really a problem they could just hire some of them back (or, I dunno, keep them in the first place).
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But who is letting interns with no experience take architectural and technological decisions for a core feature such as the start menu? These are the people that should be blamed.
>> they aren't able to hire people nowadays with Win32 development
They can hire pretty much anyone. They choose to not hire people with Win32 experience. They choose to implement hiring process which results in hire other kind of people.
Yet Apple can find decent developers to work with their Apple-specific tools+tech.
Yeah, there's been complaints about some Apple's old polish and consistency being lost, but it's usually very nitpicky stuff, nothing compared to the complaints about Win11.
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You're only half right, a lot of these devs probably use Windows but since JSwhatever is the current lingua franca of programming it's easier to hire for
> this is also a reason why WinUI efforts went down the drain.
That may be, but there is PLENTY of people with the expertise to develop WinUI apps -- IMO, the glaring problem would be that Microsoft can't get their head straight on which UI to support in the first place!
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I personally think this is a symptom of tech companies hiring leetcoders.
Do they hire from US universities?
I thought most work is outsourced now.
> It's basically a fancy textbox.
That was the lure.
But the real Notepad has been decommissioned and there is some bloated one now.
Is notepad++ still a thing? I only use Windows as a dumb terminal now.
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It's not even a competent textbox. Try to scan barcodes into it for example, or use it with Autohotkey. It has some sort of buffering issue and lags horribly whenever characters are input faster than a human.
And this W11 version of Notepad takes longer to open than Sublime Text and about equal to Firefox. On NVMe.
It used to be instant, which is something you really notice the difference with when it changes.
The fucking start menu used to be an actual windows component that opened instantaneously. It's a web app now, sometimes taking seconds to open.
I also noticed a lot of the time windows just ignores me double clicking on things in file explorer, leaving me to sit there wondering if I have to do it again.
On my 5 year old work laptop it was so bad it was nearly unusable. I found that disabling the shell extensions they used to implement the new file explorer UI helped a lot with that.
They made the damned system volume regulator open with a visible delay now. You can click on it and observe it at 0 level, and then after some seconds it jumps to the actual position. After they threw out Win10 taskbar and replaced it with this rejected tablet atrocity in Win11, everything got much slower on it.
The only reason I use Notepad is that it opens instantly. A fancy think with loads of features that's slow to open should be a new product.
Notepad--
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That was WordPad, right? Except it also loaded instantly, probably.
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Opens instantly on my machine. It takes the same amount of time as neovim.
Now if you want to complain about something then vscode takes 12 seconds to load
Wait till you open the humble calculator.
It's an amazing technical feat how they managed to introduce a graphical delay to it in Windows 10. I feel it actually took planning to work out how to introduce friction into easily the simplest conceivable app for no reason. It is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with Windows today.
They put a copilot button in Outlook. Which, when ask, gladly confesses it doesn't have access to your mail or calendar, completely negating any value it could possibly have.
My personal headcannon is, that it's mostly for telemetrics and KPI scamming, so stakeholders can reap the bonus based on engagement metrics
Just Microsoft doing Microsoft things. Cue the James Franco First Time? meme...
The same with the AI thing Meta added to Whatsapp. After spending a while trying to search for a message whose exact wording I couldn't remember, but whose content was easily described, I thought I'd give the bot a try. Turns out it doesn't have access to my messages.
I expect MS will get there long before Meta does given they don't have the encryption issue to contend with.
> They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.
Every time I see a new CoPilot button, or a toast nagging me because I've not clicked any of them and they think I really should want to, a phrase crosses my mind…
“Thank you the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation”
For reference: you can get the regular notepad back by just uninstalling Notepad from the control panel (the new one, with big buttons and less features). Since it's possible using the regular UI without particular shenanigans, I assume this is fully supported.
What is Copilot good for in Notepad? :)
It is like a carpet raid. Bomb everything with Copilot agent…
It is funny but it is not.
That's not Notepad. They may call it Notepad, but it isn't.
They call Wordpad write.exe!
For backwards compatibility, of course, with pre-95 programs that have write.exe hardcoded.
They still have Wordpad? :O
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Notepad++ is always a default install on any new Windows PC. Who on earth uses Notepad?
So its gonna sound weird, but some companies really have strict policies and notepad there is ok, but notepad++ isn't. Usually, there is some way to get exceptions, but those tend to require more effort than it is usually worth it. I guess what I am saying it: it is not always by choice:D
I've worked for banks in the past (actually, working for one right now), and they always had Notepad++ available - at least for me, as a developer.
There are no licensing issues, no fees to pay, no support to pay. It really is free, even in a commercial environment.
If it's a windows-based server, there's probably little need to do much text editing, so installing Notepad++ wouldn't be needed or desired. Then, you suddenly need to copy/paste/amend some text, so you end up opening Notepad. My use of it is typically if I'm connecting remotely to the Windows desktop and am not sure if the keymap is correct when typing in a password, so I type it into Notepad to make sure I'm putting in what I think I'm typing.
Except the new notepad autosaves so I can no longer trust it for temporary password storage.
Thanks Microsoft for making everything worse
I feel sorry for the younger generations, they’ll never know what it was like to use computers that weren’t actively trying to shaft you all the time
I do, when I have tons of tabs in Nodepad++ and then need some other notes of different priority/context in explicitly another window that looks visually different to Notepad++ :)
Aaaand... thats about it, even Total commander's built in text editor is more powerful.
Maybe it can finally get the new lines correct for a given application? ;-)
A choice of line endings was one of the few good things they did to Notepad, but that was in the Windows 10 era.
I remember it being pretty nice to explicitly choose encoding too.
I found that the other day, in a co-worker computer ...
WTF!! JFC
CotEditor on Mac is the closest to Notepad I’ve felt in years. Gotta wonder what the end game at Microsoft is.
This is endgame. They are at the stage when everything in game is already done and they are lazingly trying to do some sidequests, like stacking the most cheese you can in a room.
The endgame is getting corporate customers hooked on cloud-hosted subscription-model everything, then jacking the prices up.
I bet it was the MVP. LOL