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Comment by pinkmuffinere

7 hours ago

I don’t want to get too deep into goo goo gjoob orthodoxy on a polite forum like HN, but I think you’re wrong.

Slithey, mimsy, borogrove etc are indeed nonsense words, because they are nonsense and used as words. Notably, because of the way they are used we have a sense of whether they are objects, adjectives, verbs, etc, and also some characteristics of the thing/adjective/verb in question. Goo goo gjoob on the other hand, happens in isolation, with no implied meaning at all. Is it a verb? Adjective? Noun? Is it hairy? Nerve-wracking? Is it conveying a partial concept? Or a whole sentence? We can’t give a compelling answer to any of these based on the usage. So it’s more like scat-singing — just vocalization without meaning. Nonsense words have meaning, even if the meaning isn’t clear. Slithey and mimsy are adjectives. Borogroves are nouns. The jabberwock is a creature.

“Anything too stupid to be spoken is sung”

You’re seeking to lock down meaning and clarification in a song where such an exercise has purposefully been defeated to resist proper analysis.

I was responding to the comment about it being a “non-lexical vocable”. While we don’t have John Lennon with us for clarification, I still doubt he’d have said “well all the song is my lyrics, except for the last line of the choruses which is a non-lexical vocable”. It’s not in isolation, it completes the chorus.

Also given it’s the only goo goo gjoob in popular music then it seems very deliberate and less like a laa laa or a skibide bap scat type of thing.

And yeah as the other poster here points out, it’s likely something along the lines of what a walrus says from his big tusky hairy underwater mouth.

RIP Johnny:

I am he as you are he, as you are me and we are all together See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly I'm crying

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long I am the eggman, they are the eggmen I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob

Mister City policeman sitting pretty little policemen in a row See how they fly like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run I'm crying, I'm crying I'm crying, I'm crying

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your knickers down I am the eggman, they are the eggmen I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob

Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun If the sun don't come, you get a tan from standing in the english rain I am the eggman, they are the eggmen I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob, g'goo goo g'joob

Expert textpert choking smokers Don't you think the joker laughs at you? See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snied I'm crying

Semolina pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower Elementary penguin singing Hari Krishna Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar-Allan-Poe I am the eggman, they are the eggmen I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob, g'goo goo g'joob Goo goo g'joob, g'goo goo g'joob, g'goo...

“Let the fuckers work that one out Pete!”

Citation: John Lennon - In My Life by Pete Shotton (Lennon’s childhood best friend).

I had always just assumed "goo goo gjoob" was how you say "pleased to meet you" in walrus.