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Comment by snvzz

4 hours ago

>I wonder how these decisions are made? Skimp on these things to save a few cents but

>ruin your user experience?

How? Just what software or service does even use HEVC or VVC over H264, VP8/9 and AV1?

If they were approached by mpreg, I cannot blame them for choosing to disable the codecs over paying the racket.

I just wish they made a public statement about it at the time, and were loud about it in their product pages, rather than customers having to find out in this manner.

Name and shame, and recommend customers to use AOM codecs, rather than silently handle it.

VP8 was never competitive with H.264 – like WebP the apparent savings was due to lowering detail by double-encoding. Since people care about battery life / fan noise it only made sense if you were running a huge operation with the infrastructure to encode variants for niche combinations as well as the mainstream devices.

VP9 could beat H.264 but not H.265 or AV1, and there was only a brief window where it had hardware acceleration ahead of better codecs.

> Just what software or service does even use HEVC or VVC over H264, VP8/9 and AV1?

Like everything? Its objectively better in every way.

Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Apple TV+, RDP, Teams, etc...

You'll note that Zoom and Webex aren't listed which is why Teams provides sharper screen sharing with less bandwidth. Its likely they also didn't want to pay the shiny nickel to have happier users.

EDIT - I left off 4k UHD Blu Ray. Thats a big one.

  • As far as I am aware, Netflix, like youtube, use AOM codecs.

    >EDIT - I left off 4k UHD Blu Ray. Thats a big one.

    Is Bluray actually relevant today?

Your phone likely records videos in HEVC format (if purchased in the last few years). If you want to watch your own videos on a PC, you'll have to deal with the codec.

That's something to begin with.