Comment by Guvante
2 months ago
Wouldn't they be seeking a romantic relationship otherwise?
Using AI to fulfill a need implies a need which usually results in action towards that need. Even "the dating scene is terrible" is human interaction.
2 months ago
Wouldn't they be seeking a romantic relationship otherwise?
Using AI to fulfill a need implies a need which usually results in action towards that need. Even "the dating scene is terrible" is human interaction.
> Even "the dating scene is terrible" is human interaction.
For some subset of people, this isn't true. Some people don't end up going on a single date or get a single match. And even for those who get a non-zero number there, that number might still be hovering around 1-2 matches a year and no actual dates.
Are we talking people trying to date or "trying to date"?
I am not even talking dates BTW but the pre-cursors to dates.
If you bring up Tinder etc then I would point out that AI has been doing bad things for quite a while obviously.
> Are we talking people trying to date or "trying to date"?
The former. The latter I find is naught more than a buzz word used to shut down people who complain about a very real problem.
> If you bring up Tinder etc then I would point out that AI has been doing bad things for quite a while obviously.
Clearly. But we've also been cornered into Tinder and other dating apps being one of very few social arenas where you can reasonably expect dating to actually happen.[1] There's also friend circles and other similar close social circles, but once you've exhausted those options, assuming no other possibilities reveal themselves, what else is there? There's uni or collage, but if you're past that time of your life, tough shit I guess. There's work, but people tend to have the sense to not let their love life and their work mix. You could hook up after someone changes jobs, but that's not something that happens every day.
[1] https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1908630116
Swiping on thousands of people without getting a single date is not human interaction and that's the reality for some people.
I still don't think an AI partner is a good solution, but you are seriously underestimating how bad the status quo is.
> Swiping on thousands of people without getting a single date is not human interaction and that's the reality for some people.
For some people, yes, but 99% of those people are men. The whole "women with AI boyfriends" thing is an entirely different issue.
If you have 100 men to 100 women on an imaginary tinder platform and most of the men get rejected by all 100 women it's easy to see where the problem would arise for women too.
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Despite the name, the subreddit community has both men and women and both ai boyfriends and ai girlfriends.
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We do see - from 'crazy cat lady' to 'incel', from 'where have all the good men gone' to the rapid decline of the numbers of 25-year-olds who have had sexual experiences, not to mention from the 'loneliness epidemic' that has several governments, especially in Europe, alarmed enough to make it an agenda pointt: No, they would not. Not all of them. Not even a majority.
AI in these cases is just a better 'litter of 50 cats', a better, less-destructive, less-suffering-creating fantasy.
Not all human interaction is a net positive in the end.
In this framing “any” human interaction is good interaction.
This is true if the alternative to “any interaction” is “no interaction”. Bots alter this, and provide “good interaction”.
In this light, the case for relationship bots is quite strong.