Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

Apple TV apps, in general, are terrible. Every single one [that I routinely use] (including Apple’s apps) regularly crash or lock up, often leaving it to me, to force-quit.

Amazon has started getting into a state, lately, where it ignores the remote, unless I go back, then go forward again.

This kind of “quality” is considered “acceptable,” in today’s world.

AppleTV has a JavaScript-based development system. It also has a fairly classic native Swift system (which I use). I suspect most apps are JavaScript, though.

[EDIT: Added the “routinely use” qualifier]

Agreed the interface is clunky.

> you can no longer see the content in case you paused to freeze the frame

You can press up on the D-pad to dismiss that overlay, if you want to see the full paused frame.

> How do you start it again? By clicking the same button, right? No! By clicking up.

Maybe we have different remotes? On the latest model, you play/pause with the same button.

One issue I’ve noticed in the app is there seems to be no way to move the cursor “up” to the channel button when the video is in the last 10% of the playback bar. If you rewind it a bit, then you’re able to move the cursor up there.

Only in the last few days have Shorts appeared at the top of my home page. I fear it may be the end for me.

I know Prime did this for quite some time, unaware if they still do. The main YouTube web app also suffers from this same issue, though at least the play button disappears.

Everytime YouTube gets an update it gets worse. This has been true for years. It's like their design and product team is run by second-graders.

It’s so bad. Last time I tried to use it I was unable to fill in my password for my account because Google had implement some custom input element and custom keyboard which did not contain some of the characters I have in my password. And of course there was no possibility to paste or use keychain.

You'd think they've done it on purpose so you don't watch Youtube on TV. I tried but it's so bad you'd never open it a second time. And that's the platform where there are no ad blockers, so it must be good for them ...

> so you can no longer see the content in case you paused to freeze the frame.

It's similar on desktop, if you pause the video, an overlay with recommendations appears, and it prevents you from reading the subtitles, for example.

Oh, and I'll see your youtube and Raise you the Discovery Plus app (Maybe UK only?).

The content they offer is either a big back catalog of reality TV dross, or Live sport. The live sport streams, when left open when the AppleTV is turned off will always crash and go into a frozen state where there's no way out except by force quitting the app.

Reported multiple times to their tech support, no fix in 2 years. This for sports services that cost 30GBP a month, minimum, and with a regional monopoly on coverage.

The YouTube app is the worst on its own site too. I don’t login to any Google account and I turned off site history, and now the homepage is completely blank. Yup. Google won’t even show me a single video on the homepage because I refuse to turn on history. Which is actually kind of nice for preventin distractions

You’re meant to use the dedicated pause button on the apple tv remote to pause without any overlay. Anything that uses the apple built in player has ui appear when you hit the center button. Same for Netflix.

Does the search feature work for you? Mine gives me about 2 seconds to enter a search term, but once it has fetched results for the partial input, it keeps reverting the search field as I try to enter more, even if I delete to try again.

I would not be surprised if there is no QA team for the tvOS app.

> The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV.

The YouTube app is a walk in the park compared to the app for Hayu which is like torture sometimes it’s so buggy.

> The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV.

I would've agreed until Netflix did their redesign and started pushing wrestling for whatever braindead reason. Some executives should just quit.

Perhaps it's a dark pattern to keep you using the youtube app on your phone and casting it

I can genuinely only assume that Google simply refuses to do the sane, normal thing for the platform.

Given that every other app manages to get basic interaction right, I’m not inclined to believe it’s an os/hardware issue.

Is it a real app anyway on that platform? I doubt it.

Last time I checked, the LG webOS app was just running tv.youtube.com which only expects a TV-specific user agent.

This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem. But no government seems to care—-and what will you do, stop watching YouTube?

I used to use a browser extension that devolved thumbnails and titles. That seemed nice, but I stopped using it a few years ago because I don't want that kind of content in my life and changing the window dressing didn't fix it.

I do this instead: When a thumbnail and/or title is displayed on my screen feels like some variation of spammy clicky ragebait, I use the 3-dot menu and pick "Not interested" or "Don't recommend channel".

Nowadays, that kind of stuff is pretty much just gone.

This has certainly nuked whole channels (and also entire categories) from my youtube feed, and that suits me just fine. I need my life to be encumbered neither by clickbait, nor by the subset of creators that are compelled to generate it in the first place.

There's more good, interesting, non-bait content created every day than any person has time to consume. The herd is plenty big enough to be culled.

I think I'll be OK without watching videos -- at all -- from people who are working to jam the cock of influence as hard as possible into whatever they can.

Neither of these are available on Apple TV. Otherwise, you make a good suggestion; install them where available.

Hey, Only 50% of one of my thumbnails are AI generated Garbage!

I do agree it is annoying. Some people do it quite a lot with car work videos to make the car look in far worse than it is.

Except that those two things are fantastic indicators for videos / channels you should be avoiding. Hiding their foolishness and then watching them anyway rewards their behavior.

"Watch the world explode as I try to make a table!!!!!!!!!!!!" is unlikely its more like "Watch the world explode as I try to make this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!".

It’s only “really long“ because it doesn’t fit on my screen.

I agree in the abstract it’s a perfectly reasonable title. It should absolutely be readable.

But it’s not. Because the app sucks.

And how should I use a web browser on my Apple TV?

That’s not an option. And if it was? I wouldn’t want to use it.

They can use features like GPU, USB, NFC, etc trivially; whereas websites and PWAs may not be able to at all.

And if someone puts in a 500 character title, it still can't be truncated?

YouTube making up a shorter title would be so much worse...

It’s different on Apple TV.

> Am I using Apple TV? No. Is it really true that they removed the truncation indicator?

Yes.

Your comment is past tense - does that mean they’ve stopped doing this? Please, Lord. I had to set my ATV to go to screensaver in a ridiculously short amount of time to preempt the YouTube one.

YES. That was HORRIBLE. Thankfully that only lasted like a day or two.

The fact that they would ever think that was possibly an OK thing to do though shows you how brain dead they are.

I assume you mean all the snake oil pre-playback ads? Mostly dangerous medical advice, solar scams, or wellness quackery.

This week, an instructional video I was watching on how to repair my water heater was suddenly interrupted by a campy ad for pussy-hair razors.

It was so ill-timed, bizarre, and inappropriate I burst out laughing.

The other one I was seeing a lot of, until very recently, was pornographic static ads that were implemented as an optical illusion. If you viewed it at full scale it was an innocuous image of a closet or chair or something, so it passed all checks, but when scaled into a thumbnail, it turns into a silhouette of a woman giving oral or something else obscene. Not sure what this technique is called or how it's done. (It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat.)

> Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad.

Claiming that (youtube) ads are bad is a tautology at this point. What else can be expected from something competing for what is left of a user's attention at the very lowest end of a market already overflooded with crud?

The question should rather be: why would one voluntarily let one's well-being be polluted by such invasive, parasitic crap.

There is nothing normal about ads everywhere. There is nothing healthy about ads everywhere. Ads are not an inevitability.

Run an ad-blocker, protect your mental sanity.

That's just... every ad. I mostly avoid products that I see in ads (like TV, radio and internet ads) ironically.

Yes, I saw a promoted video with cryptocurrency scam ("earn lot of money trading crypto with ChatGPT") for many months on European Youtube. As I remember, to become rich you just need to put your private keys into their script and run it.

The good ads are just normal videos (movies trailer, product announcements, sponsored video)

When ai slop makes it cheap to churn out the ads this is what you get. What does YT care, they get the money either way.

Enshittification continues

> Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad. Seeing a product in a youtube ad now causes me to be more likely to believe it's a ripoff.

YT needs a button to the effect of "I will never, ever, EVER, buy or use this product, stop spending money on this ad"

the obviously-AI created slop or the mobile games that I will never play, etc. is just a waste of time for basically everyone (except YT making that money, I guess)

No, why would you allow ads lol.

Are they the PMs' preferences? Or are they A/B tested "optimizations" to hit their KPIs?

My iPhone running Safari and uBlock Origin lite is able to do this. I don't have the youtube app installed. I don't even think the ad blocker is necessary for background audio, but I don't want to see ads.

1. Go to youtube.com in the browser, play the video, switch back to the home screen. Video playback will stop, which is a good default behavior.

2. Swipe down from the top of the screen which brings up "Notification Center" which somewhat strangely contains a playback control for the browser.

3. Press play. Audio resumes. If it's part of a playlist, you don't have to manually advance, it will play automatically.

No ads, no youtube premium subscription, no "desktop mode", no sideloading, no additional apps other than the beloved ad blocker.

Firefox Android can play audio even when the phone is locked, and I use it regularly.

I'm fairly certain if you use a browser and the desktop version of the site you can listen with the screen off/locked.

If you're on Android, YouTube Revanced does this (+many other premium features)

I run Brave (Android) on my phone and don't have any ads on Youtube. I think it worked on Brave iOS but I sold my iPhone last year.

I let Brave run in the background and it seems to work fine.

You can open youtube in the phone's web browser and install an extension that blocks a site's ability to tell when focus has left the page/app. This is how I listen to some music on my phone while working out.

Ad blockers help with the constant nagging about "open in the app!"

NewPipe

I stopped using apps like this because they were always getting broken by youtube. Obviously it's intentional sabotage but still. It felt like I had to update those apps every time I used them and sometimes there was no update at that time at all. The mobile site never breaks and you have full access to extensions if you use firefox.

I never managed to install it

it complains about youtube app being separated into parts or smth like that

It also contains more ads then you tube itself.

Yes, I very happily payed for YouTube Premium when it came with Google Play Music. Them turning that off in favour of the awful YouTube Music was the straw that broke the camels back.

> Apple Music, which for years didn't know what they were doing

You pay them money, they let you stream music and otherwise stay out of your way. I don’t know about you, but that’s pretty much ideal as far as I’m concerned.

I also use Brave on all my devices - it also works on Amazon Prime. Prime frequently made me offers to upgrade to an ad-free experience that I didn't understand... surely this is a bug, I already have an ad-free experience. Then I installed the Prime app on my TV and realized the constant barrage of ads that Brave has been protecting me from!

Counterpoint: it works, you just have to wait a bit, since now the server will not actually send you the video until the mandatory (pre-skip) ad’s length has elapsed.

Which is fully in their right, I’m not complaining, it’s not like I’m any worse off (waiting on a black screen vs waiting while some bullshit ad tells me to CoNsUmE PrOduCt!!!)

Firefox + uBlock Origin + Sponsor Block + YouTube Redux on Mac has been working well for me for quite some time.

Have you tried "uBlock Origin Lite"? It is by the same author, Raymond Hill (gorhill). It has been working fine. I use "optimal" level for the filtering mode. (Note: I use Chromium on Linux)

I had the same problem. Updating uBlock Origin fixed it.

Make sure to update and restart Firefox.

Are you using Firefox? Chrome breaks YouTube if you have an ad-blocker.

The approach is the equivalent of avoiding the end of aisles so that you don't even look at the products that companies are paying to the store to promote.

YouTube is the content, not the box.

You might like the content, but you don’t pay for a shit box anyways.

It’s not a robbery if noone is getting robbed. That’s a very bad analogy really.

For me, and many people, advertising is a mental health issue. I don't enjoy those ads, they are very disturbing and jarring. It causes me anxiety and I don't like the things that those ads normalize. I don't think most people, especially americans, realize how far off the rails our society is in terms of our normalization of insane shit.

So, for health reasons, I block nearly all advertisements. It is a HUGE mental health win. There is a ton of research behind this, as well.

I'm not going to pay extra money to disable a health concern. I'll block ads instead. I should not have to PAY MORE for a product that doesn't damage my health.

I will always happily directly support content creators. I will not watch ads.

Blocking ads is hardly "pirating" content

You still get the autogenerated dubs by default, the comments moved to end of the earth, and many other stuff (shorts etc.) people get pissed about.

At this point ads are just one of the annoyances amoung so many others.

The massive overlays of what-to-watch-next hiding most of the video much too early, ie. before the very end, of the video you were trying to watch until the end but now just ragequit and downloaded instead... are very ugly

I pay for YouTube Premium too (probably not much longer) but can only 'comfortably' use the site through a series of increasingly hacky extensions for Firefox. On non-web apps, there is no recourse from the UI enshittification.

The general theme is the same as the article: less real estate dedicated to actual videos you might want to watch. There were two rows of completely useless garbage that I had to add to my uBlock Origin filter just now: one for Shorts (which I have blocked in the past) and a new one for some sort of Youtube Games thing (?) that looked like the worst AI generated slop you'd never want to play.

If this is the premium experience then I don't want it.

Just here to say thank you to everyone arguing/explaining why ad blockers are not piracy using interesting arguments better than my own.

You will never walk alone.

The point is that the pirated experience is both easier to access and more convenient.

If I'm paying, I expect the best possible experience, and you just don't get that. It's not just YouTube, many streaming services are objectively inferior to pirating.

I do pay for YouTube Premium - and I still get ads when someone has YT Videos embedded on their website. YouTube knows who I am, the cookies are set, there is no reason to give me ads.

It is not yet painful enough for me to invest time and energy to research less convenient ways of UX improvement. Not ... yet.

I also like that there’s no ads in premium. Speaking of premium things, I also really like Brilliant for learning things quickly and Surfshark VPN because it protects my privacy when I’m on the go.

As a premium user I'd like to block shorts.

I also pay for premium, and have for at least 15 years since it was called Red, and the experience is complete garbage.

If you turn off history, you get zero videos on your home screen. This is not because the history is needed to generate the suggestions, because the blank home only started a few years ago.

I used to never subscribe to any channels, I just got reasonable feed of suggestions based off of whatever I happened to search for explicitly or if I got there by clicking a link, or by what I chose to click on even if the list starts out totally random, except of course it never was totally random because they still have ip address and other fingerprnting signals.

After they blaked out the home screen and started showing the "you're not logged in, go here to fix this error", I subscribed to a bunch of channels to provide data for generating a feed. They still don't provide any. You can take extra clicks (which is agonizing on the Roku since it just doesn't react well and misses button presses all the time) to get to the subscriptions page, which will show recent uploads exactly from those channels and no others.

I also still get several other forms of ads in the form of the embedded/native ads and the irrelevant suggestions that come from youtube's interests instead of my own, like shorts. I also still get ads simply because I don't get to use my own account all the time. When you watch youtube anywhere but your own laptop by yourself, you are at the whims of someone else's account and some other platforms app limitations.

And even on your own machine, I absolutely resent having to tie my viewing history to my identity and have someone else log all of that. So there is reason to intentionally use no account even if you otherwise have no problem paying to support not only the content producers but even the delivery system.

Why can't I disable shorts? There is no amount I can pay to hide all shorts, but I can have it for free i=on a pc with a tampermonkey or ublock script. But that only helps on a pc. I watch mostly on a TV and I have no ability to hack the roku app. Maybe if I switch to a google tv I could use newpipe or something.

Paying for premium does not make youtube good. It does not resolve much of anything. It is not remotely the touche this smarmy comment attempts to suggest.

Paying for premium takes youtube from being like pulling out 10 of your fingernails to only pulling out 8 of your fingernails.

That 2of10 fingernals relief and for the sake of the creators, that's the only reason I still pay for premium.

It's not piracy.

If I go to the bathroom during an ad break, am I "pirating" the content?

If it weren't for piracy, there would be nothing on Youtube except highschool dropouts lobbing accusations at each other, and AI-generated slop.

Youtube's censorship is one reason I won't pay for it. Rumble is a legitimate site even as people decry its existence (it would be less necessary if Youtube didn't decide on being the world's opinion police)

uBlock Origin continues to work well, on both desktop and Android.

> Which adblocker are you currently using?

I’m really shooting myself in the foot right now aren’t I.

1Blocker and Wipr on mobile. Plain old Orion by Kagi on my Mac.

I use Brave 99% of the time just for Youtube.

Like another poster mentioned, I use Orion on my iPad with ublock origin installed as an extension. It’s a really great browser, only a few bugs here and there.

Nice try, Google!

Even on Safari with Apple’s braindead “content blocker” API, AdGuard manages to successfully block YouTube ads.

Wipr, Adblock Pro, Ghostery or uBlock Origin Lite. I've used all four and they perform about as well as you need them to for an adblocker. I'm currently using uBlock.

AdGuard Pro.

And I pay for Premium, because each premium view is more valuable to the creators than the ad supported one.

> On further consideration, I think what was happening with the homepage was that it was showing me videos related to channels that I subscribe to

I think so too. I turned my history back on and watched part of one video in order to make sure I had the steps right for clearing and disabling history again. In that time, after having at least 1 video in the history, the front page was like what you said. The first recommendation made me want to click on it. It was called "why c++ is terrible" or something like that. Cleared/disabled again and back to normal (blank home page).

Internet companies will stop storing user data the same day AI companies stop training on copyrighted data.

That would be the next level I should do. Maybe not RSS, but just making an html file linking to various channels (similar to bookmarks) organized by category, while removing them from subscriptions (and curate the list even further). Check out the channels when I feel like it, like how we used to surf the web. Right now, I'm seeing whatever is newest today which favors channels that churn out content like it's their job (which it is in a lot of cases).

I tried to make a custom Subscriptions view for YouTube but they kept blocking me for trying to scrape hundreds of RSS feeds.

> It’s utterly baffling that a multi-billion dollar video empire doesn’t provide much of an option to their users in terms of settings.

In a better world with an actual open web, we would not have to rely on the graces of the hosting company to offer us a better UI. Our browsers would act as true "User Agents" and render the web page in a way that is best for the user.

Browsers should be able to by default pick and choose what elements of a web page get rendered, without having to reach for extensions. Browsers should be able to render things in a different order, and easily allow the user to override things like styling, size and so on. Browsers should provide this kind of flexibility by default! They should not just be canvases following orders, for the web developer to program against the user's interests.

Instead, we just punted, and handed over all of the control to the web developer. Now they decide what gets shown and not shown. They decide the layout. They decide everything!

Using Chromium-based browsers is the only way to play HDR videos, since Mozilla is dragging their feet for years with implementing support for that. I use Firefox for everything except for YouTube because of that.

But if you're in the same boat, at least use something that has an adblocker, like Brave, Vivaldi or Opera.

Vertical videos with much shitter UI. Inability to skip ahead or turn back may be understandable for <30 second videos, but not more.

All vertical videos I've uploaded have automatically turned into shorts and there doesn't seem to be a way to toggle this.

Nah shorts have a different culture and style. I don’t mean anything technical. For me I can’t stand the style and I avoid it completely.

New prophecy just dropped

Maybe in the future they will support horizontal shorts as well. /s

You could just not let your kids go on YouTube.

There's a long history of people not using it. Most people today don't use it.

maybe there will be another tier of youtube premium in a few years that removes shorts, and people can try to guilt you for blocking them using browser extensions like they do for ad blocking.

Even on expensive, high-res screens, the homepage looks like this: https://i.k8r.eu/YOHPqQ.png

It's so immensely frustrating to be frequently insulted by how little companies are obviously spending on QA these days while being out of a (UX dev) job for two years.

Many of these violations of my sanity could be fixed with less than 50 tokens worth of code.

It's the same issue on big screens. I have a ultra wide 2k, and in full screen I only have 3 videos on the homepage.

Thanks yeah thats a fair point. I just get a sense that incentives are misaligned. I pay $30/mo for family premium primarily to keep my kids away from ads, but Youtube still finds more ways to squeeze us by steering us around for retention instead of to what we actually want.

I honestly think that at some point, there will be no recommendations page. You'll open YouTube and it'll start autoplaying the video that they (or the advertisers) think you should see. You'll be able to skip to other videos from there, like on short-form content platforms. Likes and subscriptions will dictate how likely it'll be that you'll see a video by that creator in the future. Search and other "outdated" features will be tucked away and purposefully made even more useless than they already are.

"Make product worse, get money"?

https://dynomight.net/worse/

I assume people click on the first "video" (not realizing it's an Ad).

There's an old adage that if you follow the tech that porn adopts, you'll generally be ahead the average consumer curve.

I think there's another version that if porn adopts a tech that means that the tech will work. Like, a lot of VR adoption early on was porn. By a lot, I mean most.

Aah, the free market quazimonopolies avoid and despise at all costs (usually carried by customers)

Google "Ethical Capital Partners."

Operates:

Pornhub

RedTube

YouPorn

Brazzers

Digital Playground Men.com

Reality Kings

SpankWire

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On laptops more than 1080p (or an aspect ratio equivalent) is just a waste. Less battery life and everything is too small to see anyway so you have to scale.

Because they fired a bunch of engineers, fired/reorged the PMs and whoever is left is working on the AI shlop.

YT or PH? I mean, both, really.

I don't think you know what that word means.

I’m still using Amazon as much as I was before, it’s just a more miserable experience now which I can feel and the annoyances are compounding. I’ve not yet done anything that would show in their numbers, like cancel my prime or start trying to shop elsewhere or even boycott them altogether, but that doesn’t mean I’m happy as I was and would say they’re pushing me to a point of defection. All to say, they should be smart enough to not just do uninformed numerical analysis. They need to hone a gut feeling for how pleased people are or build metrics around that. They should see satisfaction is waning. In fact, it may be what’s driving this behavior. If satisfaction is down, people leave, sales slump, then they make more user hostile changes in hopes to cover the sales gap with existing customers, but results in satisfaction going down at every pass. It’s a vicious cycle.

> If these changes are not hurting user metrics

I suspect there is no metric specifically answering the question "do users want [enshittification of the day]?"

There are probably plenty that measure success with dark patterns however, like viewership and engagement.

The metrics are bad. Data driven decision making is a very easy trap. If you capture the wrong data then you just optimize for worse stuff.

Classic example: reactions and watch time as measuring engagement. Leads to shittier content being promoted because the more garbage something is, the more outraged people will be.

And that's why Facebook has "optimized" itself to be as shitty of a platform as humanly possible.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

If it happens to me again, I will have to find my content elsewhere. It's not even a conscious decision, I just got genuinely fatigued from the experience.

On the bright side, maybe I'd be better off. There are probably better things I could be doing with my time.

Oh, are we talking about bad YouTube UX? How about the "feature" where the right and left arrows seek the video 5s forward and back, while the up and down arrows increase and decrease the volume? That is, unless the last UI element you've touched was the volume bar, in which case the side arrows will also change the volume, and you'll have to use the mouse to clear the focus away from that volume bar to be able to seek the video again. I still wonder how they managed to break this despite it having had a sane, consistent, defined behavior for probably over a decade before that point.

It works when you watch video on youtube, when it's embedded on other site I get the automatic translation.

I still cannot believe that Google doesn't understand that a person can speak more than one language.

i can assure you, people working there also absolutely hate it as well and there would be celebrations if the responsible people were fired for it.

There's no little great in embedded videos or, at least, my local newspaper actively disables it.

This is not always available for some reason

Yeah ElevenLabs had this over a year ago where you could just upload a 30 second clip of someone's voice in another language and hear what it was like in English and it worked really well.

Finnish to the rescue:

Change your Youtube language to Finnish, which isn’t supported by auto-dubbing (and probably never will), and all audio will be in original language.

The setting does not persist, not even within the same session.

Not on web mobile frontend

Is there a setting to disable it globally or has every video to be switched?

Often times there is no setting to disable this

and they are often good videos (if you like watching extreme sports related things), given the partial second video this seems likely for the account who made the screenshot

but given that half a video is not a full video this still means we are at one single full video

and an AD which is deceptively pretending to be a video

I still think regulators should ban deceptive ads and require ads to to clearly different from the main content _on the first take/glance_. They way YT, Google and co handle ads is IMHO deceptive to a point its reasonable to say they try to deceive the user into clicking on the ad when they wouldn't have done so if they new it was an ad.

And "systematically deceiving a user/customer to their detriment (wasting time) and your profit" isn't just shitty but on a gray line to outright fraud.

When did you create the throwaway? The last time I tried they directly asked for a phone number.

The money or infrastructure: factually false.

The content: well I guess that's the network effect.

To be honest I don't understand content creators who bitch about YouTube constantly (about "the algorithm", demonetization, strikes and more), but DON'T put their content somewhere else at least as an alternative. You don't have to _move_ but at least also publish your videos to a podcast platform or something?

Sigh... You'd think people would know this by now. What does it even mean to be a "web developer" if you don't know the difference between pixels and text size? It seems like such a fundamental thing, like a decorator knowing how to calculate how much paint is needed for a job. But no... now we have web browsers where a pixel isn't even a pixel, it's 4 pixels, on a "HiDPI" display...

Absolutely. Would be great to have a consistent starting point.

Thanks. That let me remove an extension from my browser, which was great.

But the filters actually need to be like this:

  youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer{max-width:265px; !important;}
  youtube.com##yt-lockup-metadata-view-model__title{display:inline; !important;}

I did that and now it shows only polarizing videos on the right from both ends.

We know. Believe me, we know. Because you guys will tell us, every single time YouTube is mentioned.

  > this happens every few months

Well, maybe, yeah, but I do think it was never this bad.

So then because it's happens in the meat industry then it's least concern then. Whataboutism.

Was just talking with my son about how some YouTubers who made short videos long ago started making longer and less succinct videos because they thought the algorithm favored long videos and then TikTok happens.

You know the world is heading in a good direction when the world's richest man with nearly half a trillion dollars is starting to muse about whom he wants to start killing off. You know, for the "common good".

On my Apple TV I get 2.5 thumbnails per row and 2 rows. I honestly think that's appropriate for a TV interface and I basically like the UI. I find YouTube's Apple TV app to be the least clunky of all the carousel-of-videos apps that I use.