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Comment by MengerSponge

3 days ago

The French Republic has always existed in the nuclear age?

The French Republic has always been founded by De Gaulle?

> The French Republic has always existed in the nuclear age?

There were two different French republics since 1945 with their own different consitutions (one with a parliamentary system and one semi-presidential).

I'm not sure the quip you are responding to make sense but it's always interesting to remind people that since the USA were founded, France went through three different monarchic systems, two empires, two periods where exceptional constitutional rules applied and five different republics. It puts in light how exceptional the American deference towards their original constitution is.

Considering that the current republic was put in place in 1958, it's also interesting to consider that France managed to be a great power for 150 years while being politicaly extremely unstable. It puts in perspective the current world events.

> The French Republic has always been founded by De Gaulle?

Neither have. Michel Debré was the head of the government supervising the constitutional assembly which drafted the constitution of the 5th French Republic.

  • Very minor nitpick but I'd have said France went through four different monarchic systems in that time frame (1776-1790 Ancient Régime, 1791-1792 Constitutional monarchy, 1814-1830 Bourbon Restoration and 1830-1848 July Monarchy)

    • I was lumping the brief period of constitutional monarchy with the convention in one of the exceptional rules, the other being another lumping of Vichy and everything that followed until the fourth while I folded the Consulate into the first empire but yes, you are entirely right, I’m oversimplifying.